Over Striding

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Over Striding

Unread postby flyinazn » Fri Jul 11, 2003 1:42 am

When i recently moved up on a newer and a foot longer pole, my take off mark has been the same.... during video analysis, i could tell that i was taking off way inside. Ive tried moving backwards about 2 - 2.5 feet, But I still keep on doing it. When i practice runs with the pole but without going up, i do fine..... neone got ne ideas?
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Re: Over Striding

Unread postby lonestar » Fri Jul 11, 2003 2:48 am

flyinazn wrote:When i recently moved up on a newer and a foot longer pole, my take off mark has been the same.... during video analysis, i could tell that i was taking off way inside. Ive tried moving backwards about 2 - 2.5 feet, But I still keep on doing it. When i practice runs with the pole but without going up, i do fine..... neone got ne ideas?


Did you move your handgrip up when you went to the new pole? If so, did you compensate by moving your steps back the same amount as you raised your grip? When you say your take off mark has been the same, are you talking about where you jump off the ground or where you start the first step of your run from?

First analyze how you are running differently - are you pushing harder down the runway because you think you have to hit the new pole harder? This is a common problem known as "overrunning." Or are you running slower and more cautiously, causing you to take longer, slower steps and putting you under? Are you leaning back? Are you on your heels or the balls of your feet? Are your hands really low by your hips as you begin your plant? All these problems cause under takeoffs.

For a quick, gimmicky fix, try laying a towel across the runway just inside of where your takeoff step would ideally be (if you're supposed to take off at 11', lay the edge of the towel at about 10'9). If you step on it, you won't know it and it won't hurt anything. Your mind will subconsciously avoid stepping on it though and it should help you avoid overstriding into the takeoff.

Also, do you use a mid-mark? Have someone catch your 4th or 6th step away from your takeoff when you do your pole runs on the track, and measure how far that is from where your pole tip hits the ground. Then, when you're vaulting, see if you're hitting that same mark every time. If you're under it, then yes, you're overstriding the whole run. If you're on that mid but under at takeoff, then you're stretching your last few steps and need to quicken. You could also have someone time your last 6 steps on your pole runs, and see if you're hitting close to those times on your real jumps. If your times are close, you should be on. If they're slower, you'll be under. If they're faster, you'll be out.

Good luck!

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Unread postby lonestar » Fri Jul 11, 2003 2:50 am

By the way, if you're moving the run back and still hitting under, you're only intensifying the problem. By making yourself farther away, you'll stretch even more every time and put yourself farther and farther under. In most cases it's actually better to move your run closer and force yourself to have to get your steps down shorter and quicker.

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Unread postby flyinazn » Fri Jul 11, 2003 3:22 am

thanks alooooooooot
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Unread postby Decamouse » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:20 am

Damm Lonestar - the wookie has been pounding on me ever since I started vaulting with him - and it has final starting paying off - have shortened up 3-4 feet on most my run ups - and less prone to being under (less HJ type takeoffs as well) - old habits are hard to break
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Re: Damm Lonestar

Unread postby lonestar » Fri Jul 11, 2003 9:59 am

Decamouse wrote:Damm Lonestar - the wookie has been pounding on me ever since I started vaulting with him - and it has final starting paying off - have shortened up 3-4 feet on most my run ups - and less prone to being under (less HJ type takeoffs as well) - old habits are hard to break


Yeah, I used to be the same way - Bubba Sparks helped me fix that problem last year, and my run moved way in, and I actually had a free (slightly out) takeoff once in awhile. My back felt much better than it used too! You're right though, old habits die hard - sounds like the Wookie knows how to beat them out of you though!

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Unread postby Decamouse » Fri Jul 11, 2003 10:09 am

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