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Unread postby txpolevaulter_k25 » Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:08 am

master wrote:
txpolevaulter_k25 wrote:but how many high schools check for the "more than 2 layer tape rule"

I can't answer that question. All I know is when I run the vault, I look at the poles. At the district and state meets I know they check and they also weigh the vaulters and mark the poles they are allowed to vault on.

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wow,at all of the track meets i went to plus district, regionals, they didn't look at the poles, or check our weight, because my friend that i was vaulting with at regionals was kind of sick so he used a pole 10lbs under his weight just because he wasn't running very fast, and they didn't say anything to him. I guess it just depends on who is running the meet
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Unread postby GMUVaulter89 » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:46 pm

where i live they're pretty strict about the taping of poles and weighing in..if you're even a tenth of a lb. over you better start running and as for the tape, if you at a big meet its best to just tape the pole the week of
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Unread postby AR01 » Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:37 pm

Most meets i've been to they don't check. I think the only meet i went to where they actually checked was sectionals.

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Unread postby golfdane » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:16 am

Haven't been able to verify it, but I've heard, that overlapping counts as two layers.

Not that I have ever seen it checked, but that's no excuse for not following the rules.

Edit: The IAAF Competition Rules allows for LAYERS of tape. Rule 183:11.
They do not specify a max number of layers (that I can find).

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Unread postby PVstudent » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:37 pm

golfdane wrote:Haven't been able to verify it, but I've heard, that overlapping counts as two layers.

Not that I have ever seen it checked, but that's no excuse for not following the rules.

Edit: The IAAF Competition Rules allows for LAYERS of tape. Rule 183:11.
They do not specify a max number of layers (that I can find).


Golfdane you are correct.

The taping rule was changed by the IAAF in the 2006 - 2007 rule book under Rule 183.11 page 141 (English Version) and I quote: "The pole may have protective layers of tape at the grip and at the bottom end."

Note the number of layers of tape is no longer specified at the hand grip!

It takes time for IAAF rules to filter down to the grassroots levels especially in the USA where there is incredible diversity in Rule interpretations under the auspices of the different organizational structures that govern Track ands Field Events.

This rule has been accepted and is in use at school, local area, state and national levels in Australia since the change was made by the IAAF.
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Unread postby vault3rb0y » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:47 pm

So is the sticky glue crap elite guys use illegal for HS guys to use? Just curious.
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Unread postby vaultman18 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:48 am

vault3rb0y wrote:So is the sticky glue crap elite guys use illegal for HS guys to use? Just curious.


I don't think so. Here is what the book says

Rule 7-5
Art.21 . . . Taping of any part of the hands or fingers shall not be permitted unless there is an open wound that must be protected by tape. Taping of the wrist is permissible. Gloves are not permitted. Competitors may use chalk or an adhesive substance or similar substance such as rosin on their hands during competition.

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Unread postby vault3rb0y » Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:06 am

Cool, i dont use it b/c i move poles so much and it tears up my hands, but i think i had seen a few kids using it.
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Unread postby VaultPurple » Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:18 pm

i know it is a rule... but how could you tell how many layers there are without acculay unwrapping part of it?

preferably i like one layer wrapped bottom to top just were my hands are so it is as discreate as possiable... the thinner the pole the better... i also can not stand anything sticky on my hands because i like to slide the pole in my fingers as i run and it feels wierd.. and wrapping backwards increases blisters!

ive never really got why people use sticky stuff on poles or even chalk their hands... ive never really seen someone have a problme with hands sliding unless they were 3 feet under with their steps or it was raining at the time?

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Unread postby Sean/vaulter/naeS » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:26 am

I use what ever is on the pole at the time, but usually just one layer of tape over lapping. I have used the stickum stuff and it is hard to get off the pole for me.
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Unread postby Vaultref » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:18 pm

If "certified" officials are not checking pole taping at NFHS sanctioned meets, they should pick up a watch an go to the finish line and time.

If "volunteer officials" are not checking pole taping at NFHS sanctioned meets, then shame on the meet management for failing to provide at least a one page synopsis of the rules for them to use.

Yes, if you overlap the tape too much, like half or more, it is widely interpreted that this is now two layers of tape. You can do that, but you've
now reached your max.

That being said, it is my intentions to submit a rule change to remove the the current taping restrictions prior to this coming Junes meeting. That way all rule codes are the same with regards to pole taping. It's an old rule in need of deletion from the book.

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Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:51 pm

I don't normally check tape jobs at high school meets, but if I see something obvious like the one where kids roll up the tape then put more tape over it to make a ridge, I will make them retape.

I was helping move standards at State one year, several years ago, and I noticed a kid with the tape job mentioned above. It took a little bit for me to convince the officials that that was not allowed, but they eventually looked it up in the rule book and asked the kid to retape the pole.


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