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USA Outdoor Predictions: ??

Unread postby carryabigstick » Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:44 pm

What do you ladies predict will happen at the USA's. Will the old guys rule or will some young pups get into the action. Seems like we always talk about how great the young ones are but then something "strange" or unexpected happens.

Here are my picks and some general reasons:

1. Brad Walker: obvious pick here, jumping great and recently hit 5.85 in euro. Probably on top in USA right now considering everything.

2. Tim Mack: seems to be getting into good shape. Jumped 5.75 in euro last week or so. Has always jumped REALLY well at that track, all the way back to pre-tennessee days. Usually well-prepared for US champs if healthy.

3. Tommy Skipper: Looked unbelievable at NCAA's, just made poor pole selection. Made like a .4 jump in poles, probably needed more like a .2 jump to an 11.8. If so he would have the NCAA meet record. Looks consistent. That downhill runway might give him the x-tra boost for the 11.6 and a good 5.80 to 5.90 jump.

4. Buller: Looks good again. Has apparently re-committed to jump high. Good competitor at big meets at times. Probably needs to make it happen soon and have a big breakthrough.

5. Hartwig: He ain't done yet folks. Don't know if he's healthy. Watch for some small meets in Ark. to get him tuned up. Always a threat. Deserves redemtion from getting screwed here in 1997 USA's and getting fourth.
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Re: USA Outdoor Predictions: ??

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:53 pm

carryabigstick wrote:3. Tommy Skipper: Looked unbelievable at NCAA's, just made poor pole selection. Made like a .4 jump in poles, probably needed more like a .2 jump to an 11.8. If so he would have the NCAA meet record. Looks consistent. That downhill runway might give him the x-tra boost for the 11.6 and a good 5.80 to 5.90 jump.


I can't imagine IUPUI's runway is any more downhill than Sac State's. I think they are both set on the crown of the field.

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Unread postby carryabigstick » Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:33 am

Downhill: big time. Probably as much as anywhere. Have to push hard in the back if you have a long run cause its uphill. Have to be tall and quick and trust the out step on the downhill.
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Unread postby BethelPV » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:07 pm

IUPUI is not that much downhill. I compete there twice a year at Bethel College, and it doesn't seem any different to me than any other runway, other than it is very fast and very hard. I don't have any difference in runway marks both at my end mark and my mid-mark, so I don't know how it could be a downhill runway. Looks to me like they leveled it out pretty good, since its not a football stadium but a track stadium. Just my two cents, but I guess I don't really know for sure...

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Unread postby carryabigstick » Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:28 pm

Maybe you're right. Fast track and downhill seems to even out the not so perfect winds. Marks could still be the same, that wouldn't matter so I don't think that guarantees a level runway. Last USA champs there was pretty studly with lots of guys jumping 5.70 plus and several guys over 5.80.
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Re: USA Outdoor Predictions: ??

Unread postby pole bender » Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:11 pm

carryabigstick wrote:What do you ladies predict will happen at the USA's. Will the old guys rule or will some young pups get into the action. Seems like we always talk about how great the young ones are but then something "strange" or unexpected happens.

Here are my picks and some general reasons:

1. Brad Walker: obvious pick here, jumping great and recently hit 5.85 in euro. Probably on top in USA right now considering everything.

2. Tim Mack: seems to be getting into good shape. Jumped 5.75 in euro last week or so. Has always jumped REALLY well at that track, all the way back to pre-tennessee days. Usually well-prepared for US champs if healthy.

3. Tommy Skipper: Looked unbelievable at NCAA's, just made poor pole selection. Made like a .4 jump in poles, probably needed more like a .2 jump to an 11.8. If so he would have the NCAA meet record. Looks consistent. That downhill runway might give him the x-tra boost for the 11.6 and a good 5.80 to 5.90 jump.

4. Buller: Looks good again. Has apparently re-committed to jump high. Good competitor at big meets at times. Probably needs to make it happen soon and have a big breakthrough.

5. Hartwig: He ain't done yet folks. Don't know if he's healthy. Watch for some small meets in Ark. to get him tuned up. Always a threat. Deserves redemtion from getting screwed here in 1997 USA's and getting fourth.


heres my picks...

1. Brad Walker (could boom a big one)
2. Toby (6m and more)
3. Tommy Skipper (never been at this level but could just BLAST one)
4. Buller (he might just win it)

these are my picks if wind is okay and noone goes crazy with some 19'10" jump.

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Unread postby carryabigstick » Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:55 pm

6m = 2nd.....come on. I foresee no more than 2 guys over 5.80 (MAX). 6m has never lost a competition in the history of the world to my knowledge.
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Unread postby bvpv07 » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:27 pm

perhaps he meant that toby has the potential to vault 6m and more...not that that would be his second-place height?

btw, does anyone know the highest losing height ever?
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Unread postby Skyin' Brian » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:31 pm

bvpv07 wrote:perhaps he meant that toby has the potential to vault 6m and more...not that that would be his second-place height?

btw, does anyone know the highest losing height ever?


it is....6.00 meters!!!

http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/archive/bemfp_m.html

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Unread postby bvpv07 » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:36 pm

wow, and it happened three times at that

thanks Skyin' Brian :)

interesting list
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Unread postby carryabigstick » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:35 pm

wow, i was wrong. but rare if ever
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Unread postby TreyDECA » Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:33 pm

bvpv07 wrote:btw, does anyone know the highest losing height ever?



tye harvey got 4th with 19'0.25" at the oly trials in '04

Finals
1 Timothy Mack Nike 5.90m 19-04.25
5.40 5.50 5.60 5.65 5.70 5.75 5.80 5.85 5.90 5.95 6.04
PPP O O PPP O PPP XPP XO O PPP XXX
2 Toby Stevenson Nike 5.85m 19-02.25
5.40 5.50 5.60 5.65 5.70 5.75 5.80 5.85 5.90 5.95
PPP O O PPP XO PPP O O XPP XX
3 Derek Miles Nike 5.80m 19-00.25
5.40 5.50 5.60 5.65 5.70 5.75 5.80 5.85
PPP O O PPP O O O XXX
4 Tye Harvey New Balance 5.80m 19-00.25
5.40 5.50 5.60 5.65 5.70 5.75 5.80 5.85
PPP O XO PPP XXO XXP O XXX
5 Nicholas Hysong Nike 5.75m 18-10.25
5.40 5.50 5.60 5.65 5.70 5.75 5.80 5.85
PPP PPP O PPP XO O PPP XXX
6 Brad Walker Nike 5.75m 18-10.25
5.40 5.50 5.60 5.65 5.70 5.75 5.80 5.85
PPP O XO PPP XO O XPP XX
7 Jim Davis Unattached 5.75m 18-10.25
5.40 5.50 5.60 5.65 5.70 5.75 5.80 5.85
PPP XO XO PPP XXP O XPP XX



7 guys jumping @ 5.80m!! must have been intense.
8700... mark it down


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