step counting during run up.

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step counting during run up.

Unread postby vaulthigh » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:47 am

Does everybody count their steps during the run up for timing? It seems it's more difficult to know when to start your plant without step counting?
or is step counting for beginners?
any feedback?

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Unread postby ashcraftpv » Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:45 pm

I still do it in my head sometimes when i jump, but I make my beginners do it all the time.

One way to ensure you plant on time each time is to count down, not up. Count every time your left foot hits, starting with how many lefts you are taking. Hands start to move (plant) on 2, and you takeoff on 1. pretty simple to remember and its the same no matter how many lefts you are going from.

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Unread postby scubastevesgirly » Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:53 pm

I get confused if i try to count steps...but that's just me

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Unread postby CHC04Vault » Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:14 pm

I never ever count when i do my run up. I can tell if my steps are off the with in the first 2 strides. I think if u count, ur thinking too much, and u should just be able to run. The less to think about the better is my theory.
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Unread postby VaultMarq26 » Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:21 pm

The kid who's picture is on the main page for this web site that goes to U of I yells out his step count as he is running.
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Unread postby Mecham » Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:25 pm

In counting my lefts

1-2-3-4-1-2-3!
Just you wait...

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Unread postby VaultMarq26 » Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:53 pm

I go 1-2-3-4-5 on lefts.....then I do a quick 6-7-8 (left, right, Left)
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Unread postby Purewrath » Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:00 pm

i dont count yb i know some people who count each step then say "plant-drive-swing-clear"

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Unread postby achtungpv » Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:06 pm

Purewrath wrote:i dont count yb i know some people who count each step then say "plant-drive-swing-clear"



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Unread postby lonestar » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:19 pm

achtungpv wrote:
Purewrath wrote:i dont count yb i know some people who count each step then say "plant-drive-swing-clear"



AAAGHHHHH!!!!!


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step counting during run up

Unread postby vaulthigh » Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:37 am

Thanks for the input guys!

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Unread postby Russ » Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:44 pm

In high school I never counted. When I began vaulting again 3 years ago (at age 45), I switched to counting. Last winter, Mike Yurko (who had just spent a year at Tennessee w/Coach J.B.) convinced me to count-down, so that #2 is always the cue for planting. I'm a convert. I know that jump much better now that I count down. I now try to convince all of my vaulters to count down; although the two best male and female high school vaulters with whom I've worked (a rising h.s. senior who jumped 15' last week and a rising h.s. junior girl who's pr is 10'6") both tell me that they don't count. :P

My advice to everybody is: learn to count down.
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