need help getting from 14' pole to 15' pole

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need help getting from 14' pole to 15' pole

Unread postby Phyl85 » Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:01 pm

Hey guys, i have a 14' 175 which i can jump 14'6 on, it's not bad but i need to get on a longer pole since i have my standards all the way back. The problem is that i just can't penetrate enough with my 15' 165 altius, i always come up short! I even tried holding it at 14'6 and still same problem. I've been facing this problem for a good month now. I believe it may be that i get on my back too quickly so i try to keep my trial leg back but i may not be doing it well enough. So if you guys have any suggestions i'll definitely appreciate it. Thanx.

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Unread postby vaulterpunk » Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:26 pm

try holding at 14ft. and make sure you are really tall at take off.
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Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:37 pm

vaulterpunk wrote:try holding at 14ft. and make sure you are really tall at take off.


Or lower... you're probably holding the 14 foot pole at 13'6" or 13'9"... start holding the 15 foot pole at the same place, and only raise your grip when you are getting good penetration.

You can just line the 2 poles right next to each other with their plugs even. Move your grip straight across.

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Unread postby saraf » Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:56 pm

how bout a 14'6' pole, right in the middle

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Unread postby tim hutzley » Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:58 pm

when I first started trying to get on 15s I held at 14 and my coach gave me a tap.

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Re: need help getting from 14' pole to 15' pole

Unread postby Bruce Caldwell » Thu Apr 22, 2004 12:51 am

Phyl85 wrote:Hey guys, i have a 14' 175 which i can jump 14'6 on, it's not bad but i need to get on a longer pole since i have my standards all the way back. The problem is that i just can't penetrate enough with my 15' 165 altius, i always come up short! I even tried holding it at 14'6 and still same problem. I've been facing this problem for a good month now. I believe it may be that i get on my back too quickly so i try to keep my trial leg back but i may not be doing it well enough. So if you guys have any suggestions i'll definitely appreciate it. Thanx.


That is why we make 14'7" length poles
Pacer and Skypole make 14'6"
Altius makes 14'3" & 14'9"
Catapole makes 14'6" also
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Unread postby PVJunkie » Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:46 am

AND We have been making 14'6" poles for YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Grip Hgt

Unread postby Decamouse » Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:06 am

Yes - but if you are in HS - it is manufacturer grip height - so where does the manufacturer put the weight band - lets see - for instance - if you have a 14'7" but the max hand hold line is 6" down - that would be 14'1" - a 14'6" with a 3" distance down would be a 14'3" --- since each manufacturer determines where this is - pole length alone does not give the whole answer. Just some early morning clutter for the mind -
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MAX Grip Hgt And rings

Unread postby Bruce Caldwell » Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:05 am

Decamouse wrote:Yes - but if you are in HS - it is manufacturer grip height - so where does the manufacturer put the weight band - lets see - for instance - if you have a 14'7" but the max hand hold line is 6" down - that would be 14'1" - a 14'6" with a 3" distance down would be a 14'3" --- since each manufacturer determines where this is - pole length alone does not give the whole answer. Just some early morning clutter for the mind -

[size=150][color=blue][b]CORRECT a very good point you have surfaced!
That is why ESSX manufactures and calculates the distance from the center of the Sail reinforcement to the optimum grip so our ring varies depending on the pole from 2" to 3 1/2 " from the top determined by the manufacturer as the maximum grip on the pole. Max grip is indicated by the contrasting 1 ½ white ring at the top of our poles that has a 1â€Â

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Required by NFHS

Unread postby Decamouse » Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:07 am

Since the NFHS specifies some of this like 1" ring and 3/4" high number indicating weight - Gill has theirs 3" down on all poles, it appears that Spirit has theirs 6" down - Essx as Bruce stated varies theirs from 2" to 3 1/2" - not sure about others
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Unread postby MillerTime » Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:57 pm

my pole is 13' 1 1/2 inches, why dont they just make it 13 feet??
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Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:05 pm

MillerTime wrote:my pole is 13' 1 1/2 inches, why dont they just make it 13 feet??


Because 13-1.50 is 4.00 meters. Poles are sold all over the world...


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