ALL YOU NEED IS THREE POLES

[dj]

All you (i) need is three poles to jump 14 feet.......

high school vaulters who are gripping 6" below the top of a pole will only need 3 poles to take them from "0" to 14 feet.

yes you need the proper technique and the proper run (accuracy and speed).

a 12 foot pole allows for a grip of 11-6 and jumps from 0 to 10-6... high school’er’s must choose a pole over their weight.. i say at least 10 lbs...

a 13 foot pole allows for a grip of 12-6 and can take you to a jump of 12-6...

a 14 foot pole allows for a grip of 13-6 and can take you to a jump of 14 feet...

all the vaulter has to do is develop a consistent Run-Plant-Swing technique... and move the run out or in to match with the grip because of speed..

dj

PS.. if you are a college or open jumper without the grip restriction.. you can jump...

11-6 with the 12 foot pole...

13-0 with the 13 foot pole

15-0 with the 14 foot pole......

[AVC Coach]

You make it sound so easy DJ. I suppose it is possible.

[dj]

hey

the point i'm trying to make is we are using "not the right pole" as an excuse far to often...

that excuse is stoping us for learning or even coaching correctly... not everyone mind you.. but way to many athletes and coaches..

it has become far to easy to blame the pole instead of ourselves...

if you have the speed and technique to grip the grips i listed you should jump those heights with those 3 poles..

dj

[Vaultiletics]

a 12 foot pole allows for a grip of 11-6 and jumps from 0 to 10-6... high school’er’s must choose a pole over their weight.. i say at least 10 lbs...

a 13 foot pole allows for a grip of 12-6 and can take you to a jump of 12-6...

a 14 foot pole allows for a grip of 13-6 and can take you to a jump of 14 feet...

Or Higher!!!!

[AVC Coach]

I don't think making those heights or higher would be much of an issue. I think doing it with access to the 3 poles you suggested would be difficult. Possible, but difficult.

[dj]

hye

if i understand you, yes a good coach can use a varity of poles based on what and how something is being taught... but a good coach can also take 6 poles

12-100
12-110
12-120
12-130
12-140
12-150

and teach/coach every kid.. that weights up to a 160lbs and that is athleticly capable to jump up too 10-6

those that can't physically jump 10-6 will and can jump their PR with one of those poles...

dj

[Barefoot]

It can be done with the three poles DJ describes, I've seen it done with similar poles by more than one HS Vaulter. Though in those cases the first pole was longer than a 12'.

[dj]

by VaultPurple » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:34 pm
DJ posted in coaches area that all you need is 3 to jump 14'

A 12' , 13', and 14' pole about 10 pounds over your body weight.

My question to this is... Say I am a new pole vaulter and weight 145 pounds. My school has a 12' 155, 13' 155, and a 14' 155. I straight pole until I move my grip up to where I can grip 11'6 on the 12' 155 and now I can Jump 10'6 in a fairly short period time.

But now we move to the next pole which is a 13' 155 or the equivalence of a 12' 175, so they are 4 poles apart and that is quite a big jump. This is the same jump as between the 13' 155 and the 14' 155.

How do you suppose new athletes make this large jump between poles without hurting themselves?

Good morning

no it's not always "easy"... but the pole difference would only be approx.. 10 lbs not 20lb..

it would also depend on the length of the run on the 12' pole and your speed or speed potential....

if you are gripping and bending the 12-155 at a 11-6 grip from a 5/6 left run you should be able to go to a 7 or 8 left and move onto the 13-155 gripping the same or slightly lower.. untill you are "on it".. then as the run and confidence gets better the grip goes up, the pole bends more and you start jumping the way you jumped on the 12 footer but with a longer/faster run.. if you start "blowing through" before you reach the 12-6 grip you move your step forward one left (two steps.. approx 11 feet.

and in the process you would continue to learn to vault correctly...

RUN - PLANT - SWING..
takeoff out..
on the "ball" of the takeoff toe,
going "UP", just before the pole hits the back of the box..
stretch/extend "UP".. pole still in front..
swing very fast and strong all the way to a 'vertical' one handed.. "vertical" push-up, push off, fly off.. from the pole....
dj

[Barefoot]

by VaultPurple » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:34 pm
DJ posted in coaches area that all you need is 3 to jump 14'

A 12' , 13', and 14' pole about 10 pounds over your body weight.

My question to this is... Say I am a new pole vaulter and weight 145 pounds. My school has a 12' 155, 13' 155, and a 14' 155. I straight pole until I move my grip up to where I can grip 11'6 on the 12' 155 and now I can Jump 10'6 in a fairly short period time.

But now we move to the next pole which is a 13' 155 or the equivalence of a 12' 175, so they are 4 poles apart and that is quite a big jump. This is the same jump as between the 13' 155 and the 14' 155.

How do you suppose new athletes make this large jump between poles without hurting themselves?

Good morning

no it's not always "easy"... but the pole difference would only be approx.. 10 lbs not 20lb..

dj

I'm confused...

I thought the difference between a 13' 155 and a 14' 155 is 20lbs relative strength.

[dj]

hye

i always equated 1lb per inch...

it’s worked pretty well even when ‘trimming” the butt end to get a little lighter flex…

dj

[Barefoot]

hye

i always equated 1lb per inch...

it’s worked pretty well even when ‘trimming” the butt end to get a little lighter flex…

dj

Back in the day I equated 1 finger width per pound... that worked fine for me.

These day I use this chart: http://www.skyjumpers.com/articles/pvpr ... table.html . And I usually try to get my kids on a pole which is 20+ pounds before I move them from a 12' to a 13'.

Maybe a pole maker could enlighten me. And I would love to have a definitive guide for the various brands and makes of poles, giving grip ranges, common flex numbers, ect...

[Barto]

Pretty hard for most junior high girls to learn to vault on 12' poles. Most do not have the physical abilities to stiff pole gripping high enough for the 12' pole to ever bend. They get stuck at 7-8 feet and progress very slowly after that.

For Jr. high girls I would take your advice and apply it to 11' poles - 11'/90, 11'/110, 11'/130