Why the plant is late?

[agapit]

Roman

In 100m sprint, due to natural selection and really much simpler model of the event as compared with the pole vault, the natural frequencies of the 100m top runners are expected to be much closer to each other than in pole vault.

I don’t think natural selection has anything to do with the physics of “speedâ€

[dj]

hey

you don't get it.......

sorry.. seems you just want to be right…

you contradicted your own statements…

I really do wish it was understood.. and not because it was something I created.. but because you could take your vaulters to another level. And never have to worry if your jumpers were running fast enough to vault their max…

It’s not empirical data.. it is science.. and not a “figmentâ€

[agapit]

[quote="dj"]hey


It’s not empirical data.. it is science.. and not a “figmentâ€

[dj]

hey

so stride length is determined by applied forces and not inseam.

dj

[agapit]

hey

so stride length is determined by applied forces and not inseam.

dj

yes

[agapit]

hey

so stride length is determined by applied forces and not inseam.

dj

yes

Well let's get back to the plant.

[powerplant42]

I think a lot of people have trouble with their plant because they move their bottom hand/arm down instead of moving their top hand/arm UP. This causes the pole to be very low, and then the vaulter has to work hard to get the pole in the correct position for the take-off. Do you all agree that this is a major issue with many people's plants, perhaps THE issue to focus on?

[vault3rb0y]

I would agree that the pole drop is vital to an effective take off and that many vaulters do things the way you described.

[agapit]

I would agree that the pole drop is vital to an effective take off and that many vaulters do things the way you described.

So, if the plan is late, what is the reason for that, in your opinion?

[powerplant42]

I personally believe that many more people's plants WOULD actually be on time if they lowered the pole as according to Petrov.

[agapit]

I personally believe that many more people's plants WOULD actually be on time if they lowered the pole as according to Petrov.

I agree. How this would be? Can you describe it in your own words? What is the way to plant acording to Petrov?

[powerplant42]

Most people skip over or brush off the small, yet very important bit of technique that involves the transition from the free pole drop into the plant or pole drive preceding take-off. That is, the bottom arm/hand must stay HIGH! I'm assuming that the vast majority of vaulters don't really pay attention to this, or, as is the case in the good ol' USA, they aren't even taught the Petrov model or at least by a good and knowledgable coach. The bottom hand has to stay high in order for the best plant timing and take-off posture and readiness. One must think about which is better: a low lever, or a high lever? A higher lever eliminates the need to bring the pole up very far. A low lever complicates the plant's timing and accuracy by creating a difficult situation to control a pole, especially the longer and heavier poles. The lower the lever is, the quicker you need to be able to make the transition from pole drop into pole drive, and the quicker you must drive the pole in order to have a good take-off position.