just curious...40 times

[AR01]

I'm just curious on what the average 40 time for a pole vaulter would be.

[apsully]

. . . fast . . .

[vault3rb0y]

I think theres a topic on this already...

But id guess the skinny but fast guys are pretty quick, but someone like jeff hartwig might have a higher top speed but it takes longer to get that. Thats just my assumption though. I know plenty of vaulters in the 4.4, 4.3 range.

[Bubba PV]

I know that Hartwig used to gauge his baseline by flying 20m w/FAT. Bubba

[AR01]

Thats interesting i've never heard of running flying 20's for time

[dj]

good morning

yep.. the flying 20 has been an indicator.. with and without the pole sometime before earl was at Arkansas State..

another good gauge for me has been to time the last 6 steps.. ball of the foot to ball of the foot. when the right knee is even with the left during the recovery step/knee drive..

timing it this way keeps it consistent.. but it also gives you "potential" if you compare it to my 6 step "MID" chart.

i.e. if you have a 49’ 6 step “MIDâ€

[AR01]

I'm confused on how you time those last 6 steps. Are you running your normal approach with the pole?

[dj]

good morning

you can time in a variety of ways..

one is to time while doing a pole run on the track planting into a towel or sliding box.

or time without a pole while doing an accelerated sprint, the last 6 steps, left to left (if you are a right handed vaulter.

or time during competition.

or use video and time the last 6..

i used video to time t-macks last 6 at the 2004 trials.. he had a 54-8 "MID" a 13-8 takeoff and covered the last 6 in 1.36 seconds. that told me he was running 9.1 + meters per second for his last 6 steps, not just his last 4 or 2 or for the last 5 or 10 meters.

this is also something a coach can use to check the vaulters speed any given day.. and adjust grip if necessary..

i'm more comfortable using that time than i am using the high speed filming times that are reported for 5 and 10 meters.. that way i have actual steps and not just meters.

make sense??

dj

[AR01]

Thanks dj.

I'll be sure to give it a try.

[Lax PV]

4.3 to 4.4 fully automatic is pretty quick... I think you are more likely to see 4.5/4.6 range. Not because athletes arn't fast, but just the nature of our event. It matters how fast you are at the end of the runway (aka top speed) not so much the acceleration. That is why you see many of the elite guys timing 15m flys, and 30yd flys (Nebraska's entire athletic department used to be really big with the 30s I believe...)


As far as times for the 15m fly, I think I have heard Jeff is around a 1.47ish, But I have heard other 580 guys as fast as 1.35 all the way to 1.55 or so.

[nitro]

4.3 to 4.4 fully automatic is pretty quick.

4.3 is movin not just pretty quick

[Lax PV]

4.3 to 4.4 fully automatic is pretty quick.

4.3 is movin not just pretty quick

Touche salesman, touche.