High School nationals?

[spike gibeault]

i have heard multiple answers for this question "what is the qualifying height for nationals for indoor high school pole vaulting?"

anyone care to clarify?

[kev44000]

what nationals there are several - your state ,nike or ???????

[spike gibeault]

how can there be sate nationals? i know there is state meets, regional meets and all but someone told me that qualifying for nationals was 13 6 and someone said 14 and someone else said 14 6. is nike for high school too?

[rainbowgirl28]

how can there be sate nationals? i know there is state meets, regional meets and all but someone told me that qualifying for nationals was 13 6 and someone said 14 and someone else said 14 6. is nike for high school too?

There is the Nike Indoor Nationals in Maryland and the National Scholastic Indoor Nationals in New York (both on the same weekend). I don't know the qualifying marks off the top of my head but they are not a secret. Go to the websites for each meet and look them up!

[nitro]

nike is 14 8 for guys and 12 0 for girls
National Scholastic is 13 6 for guys and 10 for girls

[lonestar]

nike is 14 8 for guys and 12 0 for girls
National Scholastic is 13 6 for guys and 10 for girls

National Scholastic has lowered the bar way too much to call itself a National Championship. I would like to go there b/c it's NYC and a great place to jump, but come on, 10 and 13'6!?! That won't qualify most people for Regionals in a lot of places, much less State, so how is that a National Qualifying mark?

[spike gibeault]

lol, states in connecticut was won with 14 last year, regionals was won with 13 6 in the large division and 12 6 in the small/medium schools this year... i blame it on new england weather, it causes a lack of practice

[vault3rb0y]

The same things happen in some small, underfunded vault states in the south. Its really a lack of kids committed to vaulting all year round. Thats what it takes to vault 15+ for the average athlete, and the above average athlete usually plays football, basketball, or other sports. The weather plays a role, but i think the main problem is kids not vaulting more than once a week until april, and without a serious coach or club. You might find a way to jump all year round, for instance joining a club or jumping at a college's indoor place, but most kids wont take advantage of it.

[Vaultref]

nike is 14 8 for guys and 12 0 for girls
National Scholastic is 13 6 for guys and 10 for girls

National Scholastic has lowered the bar way too much to call itself a National Championship. I would like to go there b/c it's NYC and a great place to jump, but come on, 10 and 13'6!?! That won't qualify most people for Regionals in a lot of places, much less State, so how is that a National Qualifying mark?

I have nothing to do with the management of the meet, but while those entry standards are correct, all they do is get you into a qualifier round.

Just like the NCAA D1 finals,(or a meet like the Olympic trials), you then have to jump in the qualifier over a certain height and/or be in the final twelve to go to the finals on the next day. I do believe the girls qualifier was 3.49m which is about 11-5. I can't remember what the guys have to jump to advance, but I'll guess it's about 4.49.

[spike gibeault]

i take every chance i get to vault, it is my favorite sport out of the bunch i play, i put it before every other sport. i have no indoor facility at my school, i have vaulted 4 times this indoor season (all at meets). i have contacted other schools to see if i could use their facility but never got a full response, im going to shovel the snow off the runway and practice before states. its terrible here, i talked to the athletic director and he didn't even know that there were different types of poles and he said theres no way we are getting any because they "cost too much", my dad has bought me two poles and im saving up for another. the closest club is Russ Versteegs place, and during indoor i don't have the time. outdoor im vaulting from 3-7 usually but with the lack of poles its tough. i had to learn a drive before anything because i weigh 110 pounds and none of our poles are that small so all the poles i jump on are around 155 and it took me almost a year just to start getting some form after the drive and im still working on it. and with my schools funding system we aren't even allowed to have a fund raiser for it because the rule states "If the desired item is something the school should provide, fund raising is not prohibited" it took our coach 3 years to get uniforms because we couldnt raise money for it and we still go to meets sharing uniforms and running to the locker rooms between races to get your friends uniform. most schools in connecticut are like that with the vault, except a select few, its going to get pricey buying my own poles.

sorry for such a long sob story

[kmonty51]

Spike - Try not to get too discouraged. I coach in Wisconsin and it's no better here. (By the way, I graduated from Rockville High School in Vernon, CT, many years ago. We still visit my family in Tolland every summer.) I get frustrated with the people who talk about how great sports are for youth, and we should have more activities to keep kids off drugs and blah, blah, blah (all of which I agree with), but then vote against raising budgets so kids can have properly equipped programs. I find that the people who are able to laugh about it tend to do better. I'm not sure why, I guess they don't let that stuff get them down so much, so they're more ready to compete.

You seem to be doing all the right things that are under your control. Keep doing that, and sooner or later, it'll all fall into place. I know that seems like a bunch of b.s., but it really does seem to work that way. Keep on keepin' on!

[lonestar]

I have nothing to do with the management of the meet, but while those entry standards are correct, all they do is get you into a qualifier round.

Just like the NCAA D1 finals,(or a meet like the Olympic trials), you then have to jump in the qualifier over a certain height and/or be in the final twelve to go to the finals on the next day. I do believe the girls qualifier was 3.49m which is about 11-5. I can't remember what the guys have to jump to advance, but I'll guess it's about 4.49.

Granted. I have no problem with a qualifying round, as it's good preparation for NCAA's and USATF Nationals later on in these athlete's career. I felt Nike Outdoor had way too many athletes, despite going to 2 flights, to call itself a National Championship. To me it would seem like 11'0 for girls and 14'6 for boys would be minimum just to make it into the qualifying round. The more entries they get though, the more entry fees they collect, despite making the meet too long, too crowded, and less prestigious.