what type of pole should a little but fast jumper use?

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Re: what type of pole should a little but fast jumper use?

Unread postby ec_vaulter » Tue May 11, 2010 9:29 am

ok what if i wanted to be jumping 17s should i still get the 15'1 170lb pole or the 16'1 160lb?
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Re: what type of pole should a little but fast jumper use?

Unread postby Vaultdadof2 » Tue May 11, 2010 9:56 am

Yes. It will take a lot more than 1 pole to get from 14' 6" to the 17' range.

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Re: what type of pole should a little but fast jumper use?

Unread postby ec_vaulter » Tue May 11, 2010 10:25 am

ok i have a 15' 180lb carbon or a 16'1 160lb which pole should i move to?
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Re: what type of pole should a little but fast jumper use?

Unread postby indestructo » Tue May 11, 2010 10:33 am

If you want to be jumping 17' then go with the 15' 170lb first. I agree with previous posters... power before length. when you get on the pole that is 30+lbs over your weight, then bump the length.

And Kirk, good addition on the "broke in" comment. Poles definitely do not get "broken in" and they also do not need to be "warmed up". I saw a kid "warming up" his pole last week...flexing the heck out of it without jumping on it... who teaches this stuff?? I also find it interesting how many kids race off the mats after they tap a bar without it falling....another subject, another time... anyway...
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Re: what type of pole should a little but fast jumper use?

Unread postby ec_vaulter » Tue May 11, 2010 2:04 pm

i dont have a 15' 170 i only have a 15' 180lb carbon and a 16'1 160lb spirit.
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Re: what type of pole should a little but fast jumper use?

Unread postby indestructo » Tue May 11, 2010 2:08 pm

So they are both 15' 180's... I'd go with the 15' carbon...lighter.

Or start calling around to borrow.
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Re: what type of pole should a little but fast jumper use?

Unread postby ec_vaulter » Tue May 11, 2010 2:11 pm

no i only have a 15' 180 carbon and 16'1 160lb spirit i dont have any othr 180lb but th carbon
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Re: what type of pole should a little but fast jumper use?

Unread postby indestructo » Tue May 11, 2010 2:18 pm

a 16' 160 is the same as a 15' 180 at the 15' hand grip.
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Re: what type of pole should a little but fast jumper use?

Unread postby ec_vaulter » Tue May 11, 2010 2:20 pm

so your saying to us the 15' 180lb carbon compaired to the 16' 160lb spirit?
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Re: what type of pole should a little but fast jumper use?

Unread postby indestructo » Tue May 11, 2010 2:31 pm

yes...depending on flex though. Try them both, but I'd keep the handgrip down at 15. Its a 15lb jump, which is a bit much, but it sounds like the best you've got to work with.
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Re: what type of pole should a little but fast jumper use?

Unread postby Barto » Wed May 12, 2010 8:05 am

ec_vaulter wrote:i was woundering what typer of pole a carbon or a fiberglass i should use. i weigh 150, am not very strong i bench 185, and run a 11.3 100m. so any tips of what kind of pole to get would be helpful im looking at a 16' 1" 160 usc spirit right now.


You don't need a new pole you need to learn how to use what you have.

Step 1 - Accurately mark your pole in 1" increments so that you know exactly how long it is and exactly where you are gripping at all times.

Step 2 - Lower your grip to 14'

Step 3 - Jump with the 14' grip and your standards on 32". If you are "blowing through" then shorten your approach by 2 steps. Keep shortening your approach by 2 steps until you are no longer "blowing through" gripping 14'.

Step 4 - Work on jumping off the ground and swinging faster until you can jump 15' gripping 14'. This is not that difficult to do if you are under 5'10".

Step 5 - When you can clear 15' gripping 14' then raise your grip 3" and keep jumping until you can clear 15'6".

After you can clear 15'6" gripping 14'3" then you can think about a new stiffer 15' pole.
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Re: what type of pole should a little but fast jumper use?

Unread postby KirkB » Wed May 12, 2010 10:52 pm

:yes: Good call, Barto.

EC, follow his advice ... there's no shortcuts to glory. :idea:

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ec_vaulter wrote:i am using a 15' 7" 155 spirit i hold at the top and my standereds are pushed all the way back.

Lower your grip, and improve your technique til you clear 5.00m+, then MAYBE move up to a longer pole. By capping a 15-7 pole, your PR should already be over 16-0. Something's amiss in your technique. Figure THAT out ... it's not the pole.

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