Won with a jump at 14'6, tried 15'1 twice stopped becasue i was dead tired. My run was all off, will start at 13'6 next time so i wont be tired at the high heights at the M.O.C.
13'6
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14'6
http://www.treemo.com/users/xdanxxx/channel/item/93946/
Height: 6 foot
Weight: 175
pole: 15'7 205 Altius holding about 15'4
I know i need to get vertical, dropping my legs over the bar before im done getting vertical. Looks like im in a sitting position. i need to work on this on monday, help me out, give me some pointers.
Videos from States 13'6 & 14'6 tear it up !
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i saw you jump at states, and i have a few comments.
your steps seem real tenative when u run..almost like you dont wanna full out sprint. I know the vault isnt like JUST sprinting, but it really looked like you needed alot more speed. your stride seemed really small too. your a tall kid, you should have huge strides.
over gripping galore. i know like..a bar made is a bar made, no matter what the pole. but you went to a 16' pole for ur jumps at 15', they dont make to many bigger poles then that, and your not even clearing 15'?.. start working smaller poles and really nailing your form down, that will help you in the long run. I jump with a kid from northern nj who jumped 14' at our sectional meet..he jumped on a 13'7" 170. the day he gets on a 14' he can go 14 and half easily..14'7" hell jump low 15's..maybe more..and so on..
and i dont know how else to say it other then..you look reall static throught ur run and jump. ..be more dynamic..vtech said it well..gota get that rythm in your run.. and ill add..feel a flowy through your swing and up top..atleast thats when i know i had a good jump..everything is effortless..like my shoulders just drop naturaly..thats when i know everything was good on the bottom.
your steps seem real tenative when u run..almost like you dont wanna full out sprint. I know the vault isnt like JUST sprinting, but it really looked like you needed alot more speed. your stride seemed really small too. your a tall kid, you should have huge strides.
over gripping galore. i know like..a bar made is a bar made, no matter what the pole. but you went to a 16' pole for ur jumps at 15', they dont make to many bigger poles then that, and your not even clearing 15'?.. start working smaller poles and really nailing your form down, that will help you in the long run. I jump with a kid from northern nj who jumped 14' at our sectional meet..he jumped on a 13'7" 170. the day he gets on a 14' he can go 14 and half easily..14'7" hell jump low 15's..maybe more..and so on..
and i dont know how else to say it other then..you look reall static throught ur run and jump. ..be more dynamic..vtech said it well..gota get that rythm in your run.. and ill add..feel a flowy through your swing and up top..atleast thats when i know i had a good jump..everything is effortless..like my shoulders just drop naturaly..thats when i know everything was good on the bottom.
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Looks to me like you were over 15 on the 13' 6" jump. Likewise, looked like you barely made 14' 6". What that tells me is either your getting tired out or you're "thinking too much" as the bar goes up. Good news is you're getting off the ground holding that high which means your steps are right for that grip. You are also hitting the PLZ so your speed is good enough for that grip. So, you said it best you need to "work on jumping over your grip". Improving a few things in your technique will get you farther above that grip. Later..........Mike
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I know I have't been coaching too long, and would never call myself an expert, but I have a few comments. I too was at the MOC and saw your jumps. I would like to begin by saying that you are a tremendous athlete. Your run doesn't look very structured and you definatly aren't taping into all the speed you have and you still have the ability to grip a 16' pole. That is freaking amazing.
Food for thought: I coach the kid who jumped 14' on the 13'7". I also coach a kid who just jumped 13' griping 12'7". I also helped coach a kid who jumped 14'7" on a 14'7" and a collegiate athlete that jumped 15'7" on a 15'. That being said I don't think that is tremedously amazing. I am proud of the accomplishments and improvments my athletes have made. They are all claering at least a foot above their grips. (keep in mind they are gripping down 6" of grip on the pole and then subtract 8" for the box) I have read many posts throught the last three years and many coaches, well established coaches, have continually expressed certain ideas. Jump in comps with standards at 24"+ (safe and technicaly desirable), jump on poles above weight, and clear heights above your grip. They are stressing for 2'+. My ahletes aren't doing that yet so we still have a lot of work to do.
So what I would suggest, and I by no means know what you are doing in practice, but I would suggest the following if you aren't doing it already. Do a lot of stiff pole drills and jumps with a small pole (14'7" or smaller) from a short run to improve technique. If you jump with big poles in practice you are wasting so much energy, mental and physical, just trying to get on those poles. Developing proper technique on smaller poles is easier and will transition to bigger poles. (Get Beginner to Bubka, It should be every Vaulter's summer reading assignment. Even if you have read it in the past it is always a good idea to revisit texts. You may see or understand something you didn't in past readings.)
I noticed the following about New Jersey vaulting in the three years I have been coaching, and this is not directed at anyone specifically. In fact my first year coaching I too was guilty of it. Too many coaches and athletes are trying to get on big poles and forgeting to teach or learn how to vault. I heard a coach say that his athlete needed to get on his 15' if he planned on clearing the next height. That next height was 14'6". Well eventually the athlete did clear 14'6", on a 15'. That isn't the way it should be. That athlete should have been taught how to vault. I have heard many a vaulter and coach brag about the biggest pole they have gotten on. "Hey my vaulter got on a 14'7" last week" Oh yeah? Well what's his pr? 13' That's a negative clearance. (-5") I have heard about girls claering 10' on 13' or 13'7" poles. I am sick and tired of feeling like a weirdo because my vaulters are safe and learning how to vault. I shouldn't need to explain myself when I see other coaches' kids falling in the box at every meet. They have some explaining to do. Don't pretend to know how to coach the vault and yell at your kids to run faster and throw them on a bigger pole. Only in New Jersey can this happen.
Sorry for the rant but I needed to get it off my shoulders. So please do yourself a favor. Learn how to vault and by next year you should be jumping no less than 16'6" on that 16' pole. And congratulations on the great year you had this spring and hopefully it's even better next year.
Food for thought: I coach the kid who jumped 14' on the 13'7". I also coach a kid who just jumped 13' griping 12'7". I also helped coach a kid who jumped 14'7" on a 14'7" and a collegiate athlete that jumped 15'7" on a 15'. That being said I don't think that is tremedously amazing. I am proud of the accomplishments and improvments my athletes have made. They are all claering at least a foot above their grips. (keep in mind they are gripping down 6" of grip on the pole and then subtract 8" for the box) I have read many posts throught the last three years and many coaches, well established coaches, have continually expressed certain ideas. Jump in comps with standards at 24"+ (safe and technicaly desirable), jump on poles above weight, and clear heights above your grip. They are stressing for 2'+. My ahletes aren't doing that yet so we still have a lot of work to do.
So what I would suggest, and I by no means know what you are doing in practice, but I would suggest the following if you aren't doing it already. Do a lot of stiff pole drills and jumps with a small pole (14'7" or smaller) from a short run to improve technique. If you jump with big poles in practice you are wasting so much energy, mental and physical, just trying to get on those poles. Developing proper technique on smaller poles is easier and will transition to bigger poles. (Get Beginner to Bubka, It should be every Vaulter's summer reading assignment. Even if you have read it in the past it is always a good idea to revisit texts. You may see or understand something you didn't in past readings.)
I noticed the following about New Jersey vaulting in the three years I have been coaching, and this is not directed at anyone specifically. In fact my first year coaching I too was guilty of it. Too many coaches and athletes are trying to get on big poles and forgeting to teach or learn how to vault. I heard a coach say that his athlete needed to get on his 15' if he planned on clearing the next height. That next height was 14'6". Well eventually the athlete did clear 14'6", on a 15'. That isn't the way it should be. That athlete should have been taught how to vault. I have heard many a vaulter and coach brag about the biggest pole they have gotten on. "Hey my vaulter got on a 14'7" last week" Oh yeah? Well what's his pr? 13' That's a negative clearance. (-5") I have heard about girls claering 10' on 13' or 13'7" poles. I am sick and tired of feeling like a weirdo because my vaulters are safe and learning how to vault. I shouldn't need to explain myself when I see other coaches' kids falling in the box at every meet. They have some explaining to do. Don't pretend to know how to coach the vault and yell at your kids to run faster and throw them on a bigger pole. Only in New Jersey can this happen.
Sorry for the rant but I needed to get it off my shoulders. So please do yourself a favor. Learn how to vault and by next year you should be jumping no less than 16'6" on that 16' pole. And congratulations on the great year you had this spring and hopefully it's even better next year.
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