when to move to a longer pole...

[pvjackex]

i know when to get on a stiffer pole... but how do you know when to get on a longer pole. and how long, by 6inches or a foot?

[KYLE ELLIS]

MOVE UP ONLY A HAND GRIP AT A TIME, I WOULD SAY WHENEVER YOU CAN JUMP ON A POLE 20 LBS HEAVIER THAN YOUR WEIGHT. THEY HAVE A LITTLE PROGRESSION CHART ON ADVANTAGE ATHLETICS. JUST REMEMBER YOU CAN JUMP HIGHER HOLDING LOW ON A STIFF POLE THAN A HIGH GRIP SOFT POLE.

[OAKPV2004]

Ok, Im on poles 40# over my friggin weight, but I keep getting rejected when I try a 6" longer pole 35# over my weight, and I broke one 30# over my weight (although it had a crack in the top) Im getting one to replace that. How come it is so difficult for me to get on longer poles, it really is hindering me from jumping a lot better heights than 4.80m.

[KYLE ELLIS]

OAKPV HOW LONG ARE THE STICKS YOR JUMPING ON. MAN I WOULD SAY IT HAS TO DO WITH YOUR TAKEOFF. ID HAVE TO SEE YOU JUMP REALLY TO GIVE ADVICE. BUT THATS IMPRESSIVE 40 LBS OVER YOUR WEIGHT, OH WHAT BRAND OF POLES DO U USE?

[wayupthere]

OAKPV HOW LONG ARE THE STICKS YOR JUMPING ON. MAN I WOULD SAY IT HAS TO DO WITH YOUR TAKEOFF. ID HAVE TO SEE YOU JUMP REALLY TO GIVE ADVICE. BUT THATS IMPRESSIVE 40 LBS OVER YOUR WEIGHT, OH WHAT BRAND OF POLES DO U USE?

hes on a 14'6 holdin 14'2. the kids a stud hes jumped 16'. hes got videos at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/polevaultersgethigh

[pvjackex]

i just saw the video, the poles gotta be longer than 14'6

[OAKPV2004]

All the videos of me on that site are 14'6" poles. I have used a 15' pole once, at state, holding 14'3" or 14'2". I jumped on a 15' pole once in practice for about 5 jumps (good jumps) then i broke it.

[Barto]

An inch at a time!

Going to longer poles is no big deal if you just work your grip up a little at a time. Inch by inch and keep your efficiency high.

When you do go up, 6" longer is easier to deal with than a full foot. That is where PacerFX poles are great. The sailpieces are incremental making the transition from one length to the next very smooth. Besides 6" of grip equals 1' of bar height. Not a bad trade.

Barto

[das_1971]

Ok, Im on poles 40# over my friggin weight, but I keep getting rejected when I try a 6" longer pole 35# over my weight, and I broke one 30# over my weight (although it had a crack in the top) Im getting one to replace that. How come it is so difficult for me to get on longer poles, it really is hindering me from jumping a lot better heights than 4.80m.

hes on a 14'6 holdin 14'2. the kids a stud hes jumped 16'. hes got videos at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/polevaultersgethigh

I'm hoping I saw the right video, but anyway here's my $0.02. In the video I saw, your pole never got to verticle. That might account for one if not all problems you are encountering. Moving to a longer pole is not just adding set amount of pole, you change timing, pole speed, and the bend. You might have to work on a longer swing, or a slightly better angle of attack in your takeoff (jump up a little more), mabye use your arms a little more to get the pole to verticle. Also, switching to a longer pole you need to go down 10-20 lbs, not 5-10.

You said you were getting another pole for the one that broke, and indicated that that one worked pretty well. Mabye you just need that particular size pole again to work on. Just remember longer poles require more patience, especially untill you learn to carry more of your runway speed into your takeoff. Remember, I think I saw the right video. GL

[ashcraftpv]

Ok, Im on poles 40# over my friggin weight, but I keep getting rejected when I try a 6" longer pole 35# over my weight, and I broke one 30# over my weight (although it had a crack in the top) Im getting one to replace that. How come it is so difficult for me to get on longer poles, it really is hindering me from jumping a lot better heights than 4.80m.

are you using the same grip height on the stick that's 6" longer? just because you are opn a longer pole doesn't mean you need to raise your grip. Are the two poles made by the same manufacturer? Are they relatively the same age?

[OAKPV2004]

I have a 14'6" ESSX 170 (18.0), and a 15'1" ESSX 165 (19.6).They are both made within the same month. I am holding a few inches higher on the 15'1". It is really heavy and the Carbon (lighter) that I had was a 15' 160 (19.9) but it had some damage to the top of it, thats probably why it broke. Im replacing that one but it won't be as stiff a (20.3). I am also thining about buying a 15' 170 (18.9). I also have a 15'6" 155. not sure about the flex, I want to be using 15'6" poles by next year.

[KYLE ELLIS]

oak pv that looks pretty good. you have pretty good technique, but it looks like your hips come through to fast. if you stay behund it and get that timing down you will go up poles and swing faster and jump higher. but again thats pretty good jumpin.