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New Essx Poles with NEW Labels

Unread postby eleazar » Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:54 pm

I work for Earl here at Bell Athletics, Bruce Caldwell just set us some poles with the new label...AWESOME!! That is all I have to say...there are about 10 campers left from this past weekend camp, all High School girls and guys, and they all think the same thing...AWESOME!!

Way to go ESSX and Bruce Caldwell, things are moving in the right direction, I know that there are a few ESSX Carbon poles being made (one of which Kellie Suttle placed 4th at Worlds, and jump the buildings 1st ever female 15 footer) these carbons are the best poles in the World...I think soon it will be Pacer and ESSX at the top of the list!!

Can I say 10 points should be awarded to ESSX for the new label?? Buy a new pole and check it out!

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Unread postby zack » Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:26 pm

I could post a couple of pictures I have of the label. Just have to make sure its ok with Bruce.

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Re: New Essx Poles with NEW Labels

Unread postby wacky274 » Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:25 pm

eleazar wrote:I think soon it will be Pacer and ESSX at the top of the list!!
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we always have to bring the brands into it, lol
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Re: New Essx Poles with NEW Labels

Unread postby OAKPV2004 » Mon Mar 17, 2003 8:23 pm

eleazar wrote:(one of which Kellie Suttle placed 4th at Worlds, and jump the buildings 1st ever female 15 footer)

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I was at the camp when she did this. It was awesome. I never have seen her jump before either. :yes: What do the new labels look like? and when are Essx Carbons availible to the public?

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Unread postby wacky274 » Mon Mar 17, 2003 8:39 pm

can't remember where i've seen it, but i t has flames on it, they're sweet looking.
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Unread postby eleazar » Tue Mar 18, 2003 10:17 pm

the ESSX carbon poles are in the process of developing some of the most advanced technology...Earl Bell spent the past 30 years throwing out ideas for vaulting poles and finally someone has listened, Bruce Caldwell is the owner of ESSX, and was the first person to give Earl a set of poles back in the 70's...Since then Earl and Bruce have developed a friendship that has now developed into the foundation of ESSX Poles.

As far as Carbon...The new technology is actually in the pattern of the pole, the weave of the material, and the shape of the bend...Carbon ESSX poles will be out to the public sometime in the next couple of months

How about calling them "ESSX f-Lite" instead of "ESSX Carbon"?
Throw out some ideas for a new name for them!

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Unread postby goose » Tue Mar 18, 2003 10:47 pm

ESSX will have the pole vault pole market owned, when they come out with the new "ESSX f-Lite" poles. The new logo is the hottest logo that i have seen for a pole. It sure beats the skypole logo by a long shot. Hey dan. do you know what sizes the "ESSX f-Lite" will be offered in?

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Unread postby TreyDECA » Tue Mar 18, 2003 11:24 pm

how do they compare, bend-wise to the Pacer Carbon fx?? i love the bend of that pole. i hope it's similar?

also, will they be made on the same madrils?? cause the carbon's are thin thin thin.
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Unread postby Decamouse » Wed Mar 19, 2003 10:45 am

Sounds like a lot of PR for something that has not happened yet - most manufacturers are looking for the next generation of poles with the goal to improve performance - until it happens it is R&D - there probably will be some new poles in the next few years that will be interesting - While a fancy label does make for visual appeal - when engineering technology develops something to knock your socks off then it makes for some in depth discussion. 2004 is coming fast - Oly Year brings all sorts of things to look forward to.
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Unread postby eleazar » Wed Mar 19, 2003 2:43 pm

actually I'm not really talking about the new label, im refering to the ESSX Carbon being made with a different glass and pattern, new technology has to be introduced at least a year before an olympic games to give every athlete an equal opportunity...i think several vaulters in the past have gotten screwed by this rule...

as far as talking about what "might happen" im not doing that exactly, im talking about the poles that i have in my bag right now...ESSX Carbons... of course they are in the trial period, but ive gone from a 16 foot college vaulter at best to jumping 17'6" from 5 lefts this season so far.

Kellie suttle told me the night she got back from Worlds that when she goes to the ESSX Carbon in her bag it feels much better to jump on...it is the pole she cleared 14'7" on at the Worlds for 4th place.

As far as the FX, they have figured out how to make a perfect spring...Duh! now if you are a one-armed vaulter holding the end of the pole and you increase the angle of the box to make sure the pole doesnt hit the back of it, then there will be more return energy...but as soon as you put pressure on that bottom hand it causes the pole to blow out at the bottom, hit the back of the box and instantly start to unbend prematurely..

there is also reason to believe that this can cause a pole to be more likely to break...energy oscillates up and down the pole just as it does in a spring, when the pole hits the back of the box it can cause interference or create a dead spot in the pole making it weak in more than one spot along the pole...if you have ever seen a pole start to unbend then blow-up into several pieces, this is the explination, those "dead spots" can occur where interference creates a cancellation of energy waves brought on by a pole hitting the back of the box...

Essx poles are designed to bend higher, which means that they don't hit the back of the box as easily, making them unbend smoother and probably safer...ever watched Jeff Hartwigs and Derek Miles poles, they bend high, not like the FX...(Custom poles??)

enough of the physics talk, everything effects everybody differently...the most important thing is that you get a series of poles you are confident in, then you will jump the highest.

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Unread postby PVJunkie » Wed Mar 19, 2003 3:31 pm

What is all this talk about the back of the box SUBSTANTIALLY slowing pole speed.......................

Leverage tells us that is not a significant factor in pole speed.

A full bend (less stress in any one area of the pole) is a far better model than a bend isolated in a small area of the pole (all the stress in a smaller % of the overall length of the pole). Not to mention that to make a pole bend high and stress the top of the pole the lower part of the pole must have the greatest amount of strength. So the top of the pole is weaker and you are demanding that it bend more (take more of the stress). In which of these cases will you see more failures???

The other factor is grip height...........The best bend one that getst the top of the pole as close to the bottom without failing. The perfect model of this is a circle (all stresses are equal and the distance from the top to the bottom is shortest). By adding a length of straight line to the circle the top of the pole moves away from the bottom and requires the vaulter to lower their grip to get the same pole speed (penetration). The higher stresses on the high bend pole are harder to time up to because they are not as consistant or smooth as the circle design. The probelm is that most poles are made with no science to them, only opinions. As everone keeps stating every vaulter is different but there are similarities. So build a pole everone can jump high on not just the 1 - 10 guys/girls you had try them out.

If a pole bends to the point that it hits the mats well..........then you have a problem (lots of them, not all associated with the pole and most of them to do with technique).

Its time to quit quessing and put some research into design.

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Unread postby lonpvh » Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:53 pm

I'm staying out of this one. LON
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