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Hey I was just curious about the new essx carbon poles, specifically about their carry-weight. How do they compare to UCS Spirits, Pacer Carbon FX's, etc in similar lengths (mainly the bigger ones like the 4.80's, 4.90's, and 5 meter poles).

Carolina21 wrote:Hey I was just curious about the new essx carbon poles, specifically about their carry-weight. How do they compare to UCS Spirits, Pacer Carbon FX's, etc in similar lengths (mainly the bigger ones like the 4.80's, 4.90's, and 5 meter poles).

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I dont want to come off like I am bashin the poles, they look really good for poles under 13 or 14 feet. However the bigger poles just done seem quite right yet. Saw a guy shatter one into 4 peieces first ever jump on one the other weekend, I don't know just mine and another couple guys observations.

dbulick wrote:I dont want to come off like I am bashin the poles, they look really good for poles under 13 or 14 feet. However the bigger poles just done seem quite right yet. Saw a guy shatter one into 4 peieces first ever jump on one the other weekend, I don't know just mine and another couple guys observations.

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[color=blue][b]The vaulter was warming up on a 19.0 flex 167-test pole OOPs corrected to 17.0 191 test (MY BAD).
He ended up on a 15.0 205-test pole that day in the competition jumping equal to his best ever jump. He is progressing very well under the direction and coaching of LAKE CHARLES, La. -- Russ Buller. The improvements he made in his first competition at Reno are fantastic.
The ESSX pole he made himself while working for us during the Christmas holiday was very sound and was way too small for the power he was building under all the excitement at the great event.
I hear he was ok with what happened and is now moving to 14.0 and 14.4 flex poles. He still jumps on ESSX and Spirits and also on Pacer. His school has a vast amount of Spirits and Russ Buller has a great relationship with Spirit. I see him improving tremendously within the year at McNeese College.

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dbulick wrote:I dont want to come off like I am bashin the poles, they look really good for poles under 13 or 14 feet. However the bigger poles just done seem quite right yet. Saw a guy shatter one into 4 peieces first ever jump on one the other weekend, I don't know just mine and another couple guys observations.

That can happen with any pole when it is too small. Being on a fast board runway and pumped full of adrenaline can do that.

I used to go down to the street vaults in Oregon, and I saw a number of Nordic poles down there. Saw a couple of them break, but I know they are good poles... people were just fired up and on a fast runway. It happens.

Well I mean, come on - the dude needed a 15.0 and was jumping on a 19.0? I don't care what brand the pole was, if it's like 20lbs or more under what you need, the fans better hit the deck or wear hardhats.

Hang on! The pole flexed out at 17.0 not 19. Yes, it was still too soft, as he finished the night on a 5 meter 15.1 pole and could have used a stiffer one than that.

hurstiger wrote:Hang on! The pole flexed out at 17.0 not 19. Yes, it was still too soft, as he finished the night on a 5 meter 15.1 pole and could have used a stiffer one than that.

Thank you for the correction as you would know for sure SMILE

You are correct it was a 17.0 191 lbs pole and he ended up on a 15.0 205 lbs that pole also was too soft for him, However he adjusted well and vaulted showing a lot of potential for the future 194

Sorry if I came off as attacking the poles, which was not my intent. I am sure they will be great poles in the near future.

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dbulick wrote:I dont want to come off like I am bashin the poles, they look really good for poles under 13 or 14 feet. However the bigger poles just done seem quite right yet. Saw a guy shatter one into 4 peieces first ever jump on one the other weekend, I don't know just mine and another couple guys observations.

That can happen with any pole when it is too small. Being on a fast board runway and pumped full of adrenaline can do that.

I used to go down to the street vaults in Oregon, and I saw a number of Nordic poles down there. Saw a couple of them break, but I know they are good poles... people were just fired up and on a fast runway. It happens.

I agree. Poles breaking don't mean anything. Don't confuse durability with performance. I've seen 30 Carbons break for every Spirit I've seen break and I'd rather put a vaulter on Carbons out of my own pocket than on Spirits for free.

i've broken at least 5 poles I can remember.... 6 or 7 cross bars.... seen more breaks the good jumps.... does anyone realize there is a very thin layer of fiber and resin holding up all that momentum....