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Pole stiffness.

Unread postby lope14feet » Sat Apr 05, 2003 10:48 pm

Are poles made to be gripped at the top? Would holding on 13'3'' on a 13'6'' 155 be better than holding at 13'3'' on a 14 150?

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That is a great question as 13'3"is in the area on both

Unread postby Bruce Caldwell » Sun Apr 06, 2003 8:57 am

lope14feet wrote:Are poles made to be gripped at the top? Would holding on 13'3'' on a 13'6'' 155 be better than holding at 13'3'' on a 14 150?


13'3" is within the grip area on most 13'6" poles and also on most 14' poles. It depends on the stiffness and how it reacts with you. They both could be very simalar in stiffness.. However in this case you should always "go for the power before the length."

If you weigh 155 you need to be on the 13'6"-155. If you weigh 150 the 13'6"-155 might support a better push off.

If you weight less (depending on the flex soft-med-stiff) the 14-150 might provide a little more grip. Of course more grip will not be efficient unless you are already jumping at least 14' or higher on either pole.

If you
["Go for the Power before the length"you stand a better chance of developing better technique.
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Unread postby lope14feet » Sun Apr 06, 2003 3:36 pm

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Re: That is a great question as 13'3"is in the area on

Unread postby skyin' pimp » Wed Apr 09, 2003 1:41 am

ESSX wrote:
lope14feet wrote:Are poles made to be gripped at the top? Would holding on 13'3'' on a 13'6'' 155 be better than holding at 13'3'' on a 14 150?


13'3" is within the grip area on most 13'6" poles and also on most 14' poles. It depends on the stiffness and how it reacts with you. They both could be very simalar in stiffness.. However in this case you should always "go for the power before the length."

If you weigh 155 you need to be on the 13'6"-155. If you weigh 150 the 13'6"-155 might support a better push off.

If you weight less (depending on the flex soft-med-stiff) the 14-150 might provide a little more grip. Of course more grip will not be efficient unless you are already jumping at least 14' or higher on either pole.

If you
["Go for the Power before the length"you stand a better chance of developing better technique.




i'm 5'7" 150lbs.. last summer i got on a 14' pole, it was a 13.5 flex.. so, about a 190.. i put a good foot on 4.92 (16') on a 13'11" grip, (i have video).. if i ever grew the kahuna's to hold higher i might be a good vaulter someday.. let's hope age doesn't catch up to quickly.. the the point is, i weigh 150, i was on a 190, you get it...
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Unread postby natdog » Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:11 am

I think you got the kahunna's. but some people just prefer there men pierced!!!!
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Unread postby Decamouse » Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:19 am

Really two main ways to bend bigger poles - one (not preferred) is to be under, lever like crazy and go for the big bend - squat on it and you can bend - maybe not get much penetation - the other is speed - since the velocity is a squared term in the force equations - increase in speed really is the big factor (assuming you also plant half way decent) - especially for the vertically challenged - speed - speed - speed - that is why younger and older vaulters do not jump on poles rated 10-20 lbs over - speed is still developing or in my case - long gone - yes there are other factors - but none as important as speed (velocity)
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Unread postby skyin' pimp » Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:43 am

natdog wrote:I think you got the kahunna's. but some people just prefer there men pierced!!!!


i pierced myself right on my good ol' digger.. true.. got a vet needle and just popped it right through, put in 14 carat gold too.. oh yeah, my good ol' digger only gets the best
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Unread postby PVJunkie » Wed Apr 09, 2003 2:04 pm

Jon you are truly a sick pup.............................and thats what I respect about you. Glad to see you finally joined us here in our massive debates.


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