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Re: Okay Guys, i'm Stummped. Please Help

Unread postby powerplant42 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:58 pm

I figured out that I'm trying to swing too early for a 'free takeoff'. You need to stay big and chesty and hold that take off position a little longer before swinging up. Its just a matter of timing that has to be fixed.


No... not really. The swing should begin immediately after take-off. There is no 'timing' required.

We're kind of way past this thread too, check out 6P's 'blog' thread.
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Re: Okay Guys, i'm Stummped. Please Help

Unread postby WarHawkVaulter » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:25 pm

I think you misunderstood me. I meant by timing by holding the big chest position at takeoff so you can obtain depth into the pit and have a powerful swing. But if you collapse the chest the legs and hips will come forward too soon as in swinging up too soon
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Re: Okay Guys, i'm Stummped. Please Help

Unread postby powerplant42 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:32 pm

You mean 'drive'... no. Tell me, where is there any energy being created then added to the vaulter/pole system when you 'drive' or do whatever you're describing?

The mistake that I think you might be alluding to comes from breaking at the hips too soon, which can often be caused by a bent trail leg hitting the cord of the pole, which can be caused by a myriad of things.
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Re: Okay Guys, i'm Stummped. Please Help

Unread postby SlickVT » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:53 pm

Joe,

I am not a big fan of giving advice over PVP, but I feel like some people on here are not seeing the underlying problem and possibly adding to your difficulties.

I am not going to pretend that I can fix your vault and guarantee a PR from over the internet, but I can tell you that you are doing alot of things well, yet you are hampered by a problem that I constantly deal with.

There has been talk about your drive knee and not finishing your takeoff, which is true but this is action reaction. Slow down your video. Then play it again in full speed. Listen to the rhythm of your run and watch how your center of gravity moves at the plant. You are too far away, striding out the last few crucial steps, and AS A RESULT, your knee is down and takeoff is incomplete.

If I remember correctly, I believe Brian (VTechVaulter) explained this a few weeks ago. Move your run in 12-18" and keep a nice relaxed posture coming in. Focus on quick, rhythmic steps, ending in a quick, powerful action/reaction takeoff with knee up. If over time you feel too close, slowly back away a few inches at a time, but remember to keep the steps accelerating and powerful.

Focus on that, and I can ALMOST guarantee you will be happy with the results.
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Re: Okay Guys, i'm Stummped. Please Help

Unread postby powerplant42 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:55 pm

:yes: YES!

6P, why are you so scared of doing this? Try it out! We all think you'll be amazed! :idea:
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Re: Okay Guys, i'm Stummped. Please Help

Unread postby joebro391 » Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:05 am

powerplant42 wrote::yes: YES!

6P, why are you so scared of doing this? Try it out! We all think you'll be amazed! :idea:

i tried it tonight. I just have to get used to it, and drill it more during pole runs (working on quick steps)
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