i posted this video before under college practice, but 1 person replied and a lot of people viewed it, but very little comments. Please comment!!!!! I'm on a to soft of a pole, i'm waiting for 2 new poles to come in. The bungie at 16 or 16'6. The other two guys are upper classmen that have both been over 17ft.
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heres the link......THANKS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNphBnoJ_YQ
PLEASE LET ME KNO WHAT YOU THINK
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Re: PLEASE LET ME KNO WHAT YOU THINK
There's so many attempts on this vid that I don't know where to begin.
You sound a bit disappointed that you didn't get more replies, yet you must understand that you have a responsibility to help us to help you. You need to "market" your vid better.
It would be better if you took a few minutes to edit the vid down to just a select few attempts, rather than every viewer having to [tediously] watch a series of bailouts. That's just a timewaster - multiplied by the number of viewers that have to sift thru all that.
Also, I searched "college practice", but didn't find anything. You should at least state the proper name of the forum and the name of your post so that guys like me can find it. I have no idea who you are, but I'm interested in helping you. All I know so far is that you go by the handle "swizzkid516" on YouTube, you live in the USA, and you're 22 years old. That's not much to go on.
First, which one is you? Green singlet? I'm only guessing this based on the number of attempts each. I have no way of knowing.
Counting from the start of the vid, which vault # would you like us to comment on?
What is it that you're working on? Give us a hint - unless you're just looking for general comments like "nice jump".
What's your self-assessment as to how you're progressing with whatever it is that you're working on?
Who are you modeling your technique after?
I'll be happy to comment if you can narrow this down a bit for me.
Kirk
You sound a bit disappointed that you didn't get more replies, yet you must understand that you have a responsibility to help us to help you. You need to "market" your vid better.
It would be better if you took a few minutes to edit the vid down to just a select few attempts, rather than every viewer having to [tediously] watch a series of bailouts. That's just a timewaster - multiplied by the number of viewers that have to sift thru all that.
Also, I searched "college practice", but didn't find anything. You should at least state the proper name of the forum and the name of your post so that guys like me can find it. I have no idea who you are, but I'm interested in helping you. All I know so far is that you go by the handle "swizzkid516" on YouTube, you live in the USA, and you're 22 years old. That's not much to go on.
First, which one is you? Green singlet? I'm only guessing this based on the number of attempts each. I have no way of knowing.
Counting from the start of the vid, which vault # would you like us to comment on?
What is it that you're working on? Give us a hint - unless you're just looking for general comments like "nice jump".
What's your self-assessment as to how you're progressing with whatever it is that you're working on?
Who are you modeling your technique after?
I'll be happy to comment if you can narrow this down a bit for me.
Kirk
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You asked and I'm going to give you a answer that will not set good with the American pole vault coaches!!! First , there is nothing wrong with your vaults exceptyopu don't have enough courage right now to GET BACK EARLIER TO CATCH THE LIFT!!!!!!!! Most American vaulters are what i call BAR vaulters: that is they do alot of things right but they SWING so long that the pole has straightened out before thy complete their vault!!! Look at bubka's 20'2" wr and you will see he actuatly completes the vault 2' OUT IN FRONT OF THE BAR (EARLY) tocatch the lift!!!! I have a 119 lb 5' tall 7th grader that gets blown offt the pole using this technique!!! Befor you discount it , give it a try. Don't move up in grip or poles : just get back EARLY and COMPLETE the vault!!! There is MAGIC in EFFORT !!!!!! Coach Charlie Polhamus ( Masters Two Time WORLD CHAMPION) Good Luck
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Re: PLEASE LET ME KNO WHAT YOU THINK
Right on Charlie!! Bubba
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Re: PLEASE LET ME KNO WHAT YOU THINK
I'm going to assume you're wearing the green singlet ...
Your first 5 jumps were the best. You took 6 more jumps after the other 2 guys started vaulting, but there's no worthwhile content in your remaining jumps (or theirs). i.e. You might as well have clipped the vid after the 1st 5.
I don't think your 17.5 flex (which I assume you're on on all 5 jumps) is too soft ... YET. Until you start landing at the far end of the coaches box, you should focus more on technique and less on jacking up the pole flex. That will come later.
On the plus side, your extension is excellent! You shoot off the top of the pole very, very well! I'm guessing that you're good on the rings and highbar?
On the negative side, you're leaning way too far back in the C. This is most likely caused by taking off under, and by not driving your chest thru (whether you're taking off under or not). To get your posture more upright (so that you can swing quicker and longer), you need to get your hips back, whilst your entire body has a slight forwards lean. But to do that, you need to look back even further - to previous vault parts.
Read thru my reply to Jim in the "Comparing still frames" Video Review thread, and compare your C to Isi's. Once you get that posture, you'll be amazed how much easier your swing will be. THEN move up to bigger poles.
It's good that your coach has ordered you 2 stiffer ones, because as soon as you fix this one flaw, you'll need them quite soon!
I think that Coach Charlie has correctly identified this flaw as well. His advice to "GET BACK EARLIER TO CATCH THE LIFT!!!" is great advice.
The advice I'm giving is HOW to get back earlier. Also, it's not just about "catching" the lift. It's also about putting MORE energy into the pole so that you get more "lift" when it recoils. As a veteran vaulter and coach, I'm sure that Charlie knows that, and has just shortened it. It's a great phrase to use, provided the athlete understands all of the details of what it really means.
I can't see much of your run or plant, but it looks like you might already be leaning back too much thru your plant action. This is one of the hardest things to learn - how to plant the pole while still maintaining a good forwards body lean.
There's a lot of issues and answers related to that, but to pick one typical one, I'd say that vaulters often resist the dropping of the pole (trying to drop it too slowly), rather than letting it drop weightlessly. I'm not saying that that's your specific issue, I'm just saying that that's a common one. I'd have to see more of your run/plant to say more about your specific body actions during the plant.
The next time you take vids, try to get in more of the run and plant. The root cause is in there somewhere, so try to capture it on vid!
I realize that you have the camera on a tripod so it's not easy to pan, but unfortunately, this misses the root cause. If you can't pan, you'd be better off to fixate the camera on your run, plant, takeoff (thru to the C) and skip the rest of your vault. I already know that your extension is sound, and who cares whether you made the bar or not!
Just joking. Actually, I'd like to see the complete vault - including the run and plant. And I'd rather watch no more than your best 2-3 jumps - so that we can focus on improving your BEST technique.
Kirk
Your first 5 jumps were the best. You took 6 more jumps after the other 2 guys started vaulting, but there's no worthwhile content in your remaining jumps (or theirs). i.e. You might as well have clipped the vid after the 1st 5.
I don't think your 17.5 flex (which I assume you're on on all 5 jumps) is too soft ... YET. Until you start landing at the far end of the coaches box, you should focus more on technique and less on jacking up the pole flex. That will come later.
On the plus side, your extension is excellent! You shoot off the top of the pole very, very well! I'm guessing that you're good on the rings and highbar?
On the negative side, you're leaning way too far back in the C. This is most likely caused by taking off under, and by not driving your chest thru (whether you're taking off under or not). To get your posture more upright (so that you can swing quicker and longer), you need to get your hips back, whilst your entire body has a slight forwards lean. But to do that, you need to look back even further - to previous vault parts.
Read thru my reply to Jim in the "Comparing still frames" Video Review thread, and compare your C to Isi's. Once you get that posture, you'll be amazed how much easier your swing will be. THEN move up to bigger poles.
It's good that your coach has ordered you 2 stiffer ones, because as soon as you fix this one flaw, you'll need them quite soon!
I think that Coach Charlie has correctly identified this flaw as well. His advice to "GET BACK EARLIER TO CATCH THE LIFT!!!" is great advice.
The advice I'm giving is HOW to get back earlier. Also, it's not just about "catching" the lift. It's also about putting MORE energy into the pole so that you get more "lift" when it recoils. As a veteran vaulter and coach, I'm sure that Charlie knows that, and has just shortened it. It's a great phrase to use, provided the athlete understands all of the details of what it really means.
I can't see much of your run or plant, but it looks like you might already be leaning back too much thru your plant action. This is one of the hardest things to learn - how to plant the pole while still maintaining a good forwards body lean.
There's a lot of issues and answers related to that, but to pick one typical one, I'd say that vaulters often resist the dropping of the pole (trying to drop it too slowly), rather than letting it drop weightlessly. I'm not saying that that's your specific issue, I'm just saying that that's a common one. I'd have to see more of your run/plant to say more about your specific body actions during the plant.
The next time you take vids, try to get in more of the run and plant. The root cause is in there somewhere, so try to capture it on vid!
I realize that you have the camera on a tripod so it's not easy to pan, but unfortunately, this misses the root cause. If you can't pan, you'd be better off to fixate the camera on your run, plant, takeoff (thru to the C) and skip the rest of your vault. I already know that your extension is sound, and who cares whether you made the bar or not!
Just joking. Actually, I'd like to see the complete vault - including the run and plant. And I'd rather watch no more than your best 2-3 jumps - so that we can focus on improving your BEST technique.
Kirk
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