Ways Equipment Can Influence Technique

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Ways Equipment Can Influence Technique

Unread postby Tim McMichael » Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:26 pm

I brought up some issues about the ways equipment can influence technique in the Oklahoma Pole Vault Manifesto, and I think this discussion would be better served in an entirely new thread, so I am creating a new subject here. It might be more appropriate in the equipment forum, but since I am talking about how facilities influence technique I am not sure where to put this. The problem is that if you are not aware of some of these issues, you might think something has gone terribly wrong with your jump when the facilities themselves are the real culprit.

There are several things to watch out for. The first is the lay of the ground in general. Some runways are uphill or downhill, and it is very hard to tell by just looking at them. One of the best methods is to find the location of the track's area drains. If the runway is running directly away from the drainage system it will be going uphill no matter what. Another technique is to look at the runway like reading a putt in golf. Examine it from both ends. If it looks uphill from one end and level, or even downhill, from the other end, the runway is level, and it is the ground around it that is not. If it looks the same from both ends, the runway is the problem.

The next thing to check out is the box. Find out if its measurements are standard, and then look at how it is set into the ground. If it is tilted to one side or too deep or too shallow, it will have a dramatic impact on how your pole moves and the timing of your jump. The depth of the box is the most common problem, and it is a big one. An inch deeper box means you will have to jump on a pole two sizes larger than you normally would. An inch shallower box means just the opposite. This is sometimes why you can jump on your biggest poles so easily at one meet and then not get on your smallest poles at the next. Also check to see if the box is cracked or warped. A damaged box can be as dangerous as a damaged pole. Don't use it. Pat Manson and I almost got killed in a meet in Romania because there was a small dent in the bottom of the box that we hadn't noticed. On every other jump, our poles would hit that dent and then bounce completely out and hit against the side of the pit. We had to withdraw from the meet and got beat by the two Romanian jumpers who were used to the facility and knew how avoid the damaged part of the box.

Third, look at the pit and the box collar. If they are set too close to the box, they will interfere with the bend of the pole causing it to recoil too soon. There is little you can do to change a bad runway or box, but there is no reason the pit can't be set right before warm-ups start. The earlier the officials are made aware of the problem, the more likely it is that the issue will be fixed. It is always a good idea to offer to help. Two or three overworked officials are not capable of moving a pit by themselves anyway.

Finally, be aware of issues surrounding the depth of the standards. Standards are almost never zeroed in accurately. They can be off by several inches to start with, depending on how careful and competent the officials are in placing them. Compounding this problem is the fact that almost all standards are warped slightly. The higher the bar gets, the further it actually is from where it ought to be according to the measurements at the base. To make matters even worse, most pits move slightly backwards as a competition progresses. They can move as much as six inches in the course of one meet. If the measurements for the depth of the standards are on the base protectors, this means that these marks are moving backwards throughout the meet as well. The best strategy to deal with these problems is to learn to hold your pole straight up in the box and look at the distance between it and the bar. After several years of this, you will be able to eyeball the depth of the bar fairly accurately. Even if you don't know exactly what it is supposed to look like, you can certainly know what it is not supposed to look like. If the standards say the bar is on 60, and your pole is almost touching it, something is wrong. Another good idea is to place a small piece of tape even with the front edge of the base protectors before warm-ups begin. If they move away from this mark during the meet, change your standard placement accordingly. :)
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Unread postby SinCity » Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:55 pm

I've experience the problem with the mats too close to the back of the box. What is the optimal distance to allow for pole bend and roatation and not so far as to be a safety concern. Even with the new angled cutouts this happens sometimes.
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Unread postby Tim McMichael » Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:58 pm

The best thing to do is to put your pole in the right bottom corner of the box and then lean it up against the left top corner. If it touches the collar or pit at any point when you do this, the pit is too close.

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Unread postby altius » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:35 pm

Great stuff Tim - I was going to include more of this sort of material in BTB - because we have experienced the problems you have mentioned all over the world - even at the 93 World Indoors in Fukuoka. However decided it was a bit esoteric for a basic book so it is great to see it being presented here. :yes:
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Unread postby Tim McMichael » Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:57 pm

altius wrote:Great stuff Tim - I was going to include more of this sort of material in BTB - because we have experienced the problems you have mentioned all over the world - even at the 93 World Indoors in Fukuoka. However decided it was a bit esoteric for a basic book so it is great to see it being presented here. :yes:


I have found that incompetent officials and substandard facilities are present at every level of competition. In fact, the likelihood of something going horribly wrong is much higher at a major international meet than at a low-key local one. I began to look at the inevitable negative circumstances surrounding major meets as part of the actual competition. An athlete who can handle the frustration while staying relaxed and focused has a tremendous edge over everyone else before the meet even starts. My experience at the Junior World Championships in Athens is a perfect example. It was like one of those bad dreams you sometimes have where you are trying to compete, but bizarre things keep getting in the way.

Somehow, they managed to schedule the qualifying round for the pole vault during the actual opening ceremonies. These included a performance by a Greek pop star as part of the pageantry, which meant that, for all practical purposes, we were trying to make the final of a World Championship in the middle of a rock concert. There were cables a half inch thick running across the runway about every twenty feet. These were connected to arena amplifiers that were at least eight feet tall and were only a few yards away and facing inwards. Each time the base drum hit you could actually feel the concussion wave hitting you in the chest. In the midst of this confusion, we were only given thirty minutes to warm up. Just as everyone had finished franticly marking steps and moving cables so that they could make their approach without being electrocuted, the officials simply walked down the runway, ripped up everyone's tape marks, and handed us two small metal disks that we were to use or be disqualified. Then they began making up rules on the spot, out of their own heads.

First they wanted us all to sit on a bench and not move from our assigned spots until they called out our names and allowed us on the runway one at a time. When we protested this, they compromised by deciding that we were not allowed to come closer than twenty meters to the pit at any time unless we were in the act of making an attempt. This meant that there was no way to check steps or standards, which they missmeasured by at least eight inches on the long side. After I squeaked over the opening height on my third attempt, I held my pole up and glanced at the bar as I left the pit. It was at least a hundred centimeters behind the box.

Then things really got bizarre. They concluded the opening ceremonies with the dramatic release of the doves in the middle of the field. One of the purposes of holding the Junior World Championships in Athens was to impress the IOC and bolster their bid for the Olympics in '88. This was like a dress rehearsal, so they did the traditional release of the doves as a symbol of world peace. The only problem was that someone had the idea of making things even more dramatic and unique by tying long, sparkling streamers to the dove's feet. These were so heavy that the doves could not fly away. All they could do was spread out through the arena at about chest level in a frantic attempt to escape. This meant that during the middle of the competition hundreds of panicked doves were fluttering and flapping and hopping across the runway trailing long streamers and getting trapped under the speakers where many of them literally died of fright.

The most surreal moment was when a dove fluttered between Igor Potopovich wearing his red USSR uniform and Pat Manson wearing his red white and blue USA Team colors. Both reached up and caught the dove at the same instant as about fifty flash bulbs went off. Pat's teeth actually sparkled. The picture was on the front page of every newspaper in Athens the next morning. In some of them you could just see my legs sticking out from under one of the speakers where I was trying to rescue one of the poor dying doves. It was a symbolic moment for everyone involved, except, of course, the doves.

That is how bad things can get. :dazed:
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Unread postby altius » Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:54 pm

A small world indeed - I was at Athens WJs as head coach of the OZ team and had a lad in the vault who finished 13th so did not make the final. Must admit i was not aware of all the issues you mention. :yes:
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Unread postby Vault Chick » Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:52 pm

Dang, that meet sounded crazy!!! It sounds like everything that could go wrong did go wrong! But, by the way, some great tips on things to check for at the meets! Thanks!
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Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:01 pm

Man, what is it with the officials in Athens? I have heard they weren't that great at the last Olympics, and there were many of the same issues at the World Cup which hurt Jenn Stuczynski.

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Unread postby vault3rb0y » Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:45 am

thats really something lol. An international rock concert, pole vault qualifying, dove killing festival with nazi officials making you long jump as well as pole vault. Sounds like fun! :no:
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Unread postby skyshark177 » Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:11 am

Wow, that sounded like a nightmare!!
I would go nutz if I was a coach at a meet like that.
But, it sounded like there was nothing that the athletes could of done.
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Unread postby achtungpv » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:45 am

Dominic Johnson was threatened with disqualification at the World Championships in Seville, Spain because he was measuring out his approach run with an imperial tape measure. An official told him to find a metric one or he was DQ'd.
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Unread postby superpipe » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:54 am

Question. The depth of the plant box was mentioned as something to be aware of. Plant box specs are hard rules just like not climbing the pole during your vault right? It's a matter of a legal vault vs. an illegal vault. It's one thing to not have your standards calibrated, but an illegal plant box is illegal. Misplacend standards ( within the legal range ) don't constitute an illegal vault, but a plant box that doesn't meet specs definitely constitutes an illegal vault right?

Don't mean to pick apart the discussion because I thinks it's interesting to think about the equipment influence. Just trying to separate influence vs. legality.

We actually have a local high school that put in a brand new track and the idiots installed the plant box level with the ground before they laid the inch or so of final rubber surface. This is technically an illegal facility correct?


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