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Ok so I swing up past vertical and begin my pull turn phase and i eveything fells great tell then i just kinda fall over the bar and only get about a foot of push off.


i was look at the sequence photos of Greg Woepse and my vault looks just like it until about the 21 photo after that i just drop off

http://advantageathletics.com/UI/Sequen ... hotoid=289

CrossBarHOpper wrote:Ok so I swing up past vertical and begin my pull turn phase and i eveything fells great tell then i just kinda fall over the bar and only get about a foot of push off.


i was look at the sequence photos of Greg Woepse and my vault looks just like it until about the 21 photo after that i just drop off

http://advantageathletics.com/UI/Sequen ... hotoid=289

hmm, use your core strength and arm muscle to stay vertical once you are there. Or wait until the pole starts recoiling before starting to pull farther upward. Just keep aiming your feet up, and keep moving the pole until its a matter of strength to push yourself higher.

Very well said above.
You might also want to think about your top arm (in the picture it would be the right arm). As you begin the pull and turn phase, your right elbow may stay really close to the body, almost going into your gut. Try to keep it outside a little more. Think pull, then turn. It is a minor cue, but has helped with some vaultors before.
In order for this to work, your feet have got to be going up, like listed above. The recoil will help propel you in the right direction as well. How does the pole feel up on top? Maybe a little mushy?
Keep working on it -
"If vaulting was easy, everyone would do it."

when i begin my pull i pull my top arm down my leg very close to my body and i stay really close to the pole

hes on a big pole and gets a lot of lift out of it how big is the pole over ur body weight?

cormanac wrote:Very well said above.
You might also want to think about your top arm (in the picture it would be the right arm). As you begin the pull and turn phase, your right elbow may stay really close to the body, almost going into your gut. Try to keep it outside a little more. Think pull, then turn. It is a minor cue, but has helped with some vaultors before.
In order for this to work, your feet have got to be going up, like listed above. The recoil will help propel you in the right direction as well. How does the pole feel up on top? Maybe a little mushy?
Keep working on it -
"If vaulting was easy, everyone would do it."

hehe, vaulters of matt scheffler think together.

I am 145lbs and i am on a 14' 165 holding about 13'

CrossBarHOpper wrote:I am 145lbs and i am on a 14' 165 holding about 13'

hmm, when you practice staying on top you should probably go on a 14' 155 holding at 13, or go from a short run. The more it bends and less it returns, the easier it is to practice staying on top of it.

i use the a 150 from 3 lefts holding 12' and have cleared 12' from there

CrossBarHOpper wrote:i use the a 150 from 3 lefts holding 12' and have cleared 12' from there

id say swing your trail leg until it faces backwards like you said you do, but then use your abs, keep your feet at that same angle, while you drop your shoulders. Kind of keep an awareness of where your legs are when you do this, and while you start to turn as you pull. It should feel like you are going to fall backwards. If you can get yourself stuck in that vertical position to the point where you cant pull any farther, thats exactly what you want. If you have video send it in or just look at it yourself, compare it with videos of the pros, and try to figure out what you are doing wrong.

vault3rb0y wrote:

CrossBarHOpper wrote:Ok so I swing up past vertical and begin my pull turn phase and i eveything fells great tell then i just kinda fall over the bar and only get about a foot of push off.


i was look at the sequence photos of Greg Woepse and my vault looks just like it until about the 21 photo after that i just drop off

http://advantageathletics.com/UI/Sequen ... hotoid=289

hmm, use your core strength and arm muscle to stay vertical once you are there. Or wait until the pole starts recoiling before starting to pull farther upward. Just keep aiming your feet up, and keep moving the pole until its a matter of strength to push yourself higher.

for the statement above are you kidding me? matter of strength for pushing off= no way! when you put enough energy into the pole you will be flying off the top instead of trying to push yourself off which you will never get a good pushoff doing that. i know crossbarhopper is still young freshman? so probably why you dont get a huge pushoff is 1) you gotta be fast to get big pushoffs 2) you have to be on big poles to get a big pushoff 3) you have to store alot of energy and conserve it throughout the vault. while your vault may look alot like the one you saw one thing you cant see is how fast he is running or how big of a pole he is on. watch some film of adam sarafian who brings it at the plant and loads the pole up and fly's off- in his newest video hes dang near pushing off 4ft. under media.

all i meant was that he is coming out of the inversion too quickly, it sounds like. So he needs to keep moving the pole as it is recoiling. This requires arm strength and core strength to keep yourself in lined straight about the pole.