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Men's National Records--Top 20%

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:28 pm
by roger/over
I don't try to keep files on the full range of men's records, as I do on the women's. However, these should be pretty accurate for the top of the list. Heinrich Hubbeling, who is doing the vault national records for the Helsinki Statistics Handbook with Winfried Kramer, tells me that the Handbook should be available from IAAF just about when the World Championships begin. That will have updates up to two weeks ago on men's vault records for over 200 countries.


Ukraine 6.14 Sergey Bubka 1994-07-31 Sestriere
Russia 6.05 Maksim Tarasov 1999-06-16 Athina
Australia 6.05 Dmitriy Markov 2001-08-09 Edmonton
South Africa 6.03 Okkert Brits 1995-08-18 Köln
United States 6.03 Jeff Hartwig 2000-06-14 Jonesboro
Belarus 6.00 Dmitriy Markov 1998-02-20 North Shore
Uzbekistan 6.00 Rodion Gataullin 1989-09-16 Tokyo
Germany 6.00 Tim Lobinger 1997-08-24 Köln
France 5.98 Jean Galfione 1999-07-23 Amiens
Israel 5.93 Alex Averbukh 2003-07-19 Madrid
Hungary 5.92 Istvan Bagyula 1991-07-05 Linz
Kazakhstan 5.92 Igor Potapovich 1992-06-13 Dijon
Poland 5.90 Miroslaw Chmara 1988-06-27 Villenuve d'Ascq
Italy 5.90 Giuseppe Gibilisco 2003-08-28 Saint-Denis
Sweden 5.87 Oscar Janson 2003-06-29 Somero
Estonia 5.86 Valeri Bukrejev 1994-07-03 Somero
Japan 5.83 Daichi Sawano 2005-05-03 Shizuoka
Finland 5.82 Jani Lehtonen 1993-06-26 Kuortane
Spain 5.81 Montxu Miranda 2000-09-02 Barcelona
Netherlands 5.81 Rens Blom 2004-06-08 Zaragoza
Bulgaria 5.80 Atanas Tarev 1986-09-02 Lausanne
Latvia 5.80 Aleksandrs Obizajevs 1987-07-17 Bryansk
Great Britain 5.80 Nick Buckfield 1998-05-27 Khania
Czech Republic 5.80 Adam Ptacek 2002-07-13 Praha
Austria 5.77 Hermann Fehringer 1991-07-05 Linz
Brazil 5.76 Tom Hintnaus 1985-08-21 Zurich
Denmark 5.75 Piotr Buciarski 2002-04-27 Fort-de-France
Norway 5.72 Trond Barthel 1996-07-21 Halmstad
Mexico 5.72 Paul Benavides 1994-06-18 El Paso
Greece 5.72 Konstadínos Filipídis 2005-06-14 Athína
Switzerland 5.71 Felix Böhni 1983-06-11 Bern
Belgium 5.70 Thibault Duval 2000-06-11 Oordegem
St. Lucia 5.70 Dominic Johnson 2000-08-26 El Paso
Moldova 5.70 Aleksandr Zhukov 1987-06-20 Chelyabinsk
Turkey 5.70 Ruhan Isim 2000-06-06 Jonesboro
China 5.70 Liu Feilang 2005-06-04 Eugene OR
Portugal 5.66 Nuno Fernandes 1996-07-13 Maia
Puerto Rico 5.65 Edgar Diaz 1998-05-14 Abilene
Cuba 5.65 Angel Garcia 1992-06-12 La Habana
Canada 5.61 Doug Wood 1991-07-14 Papendal
Slovenia 5.61 Jurij Rovan 2004-07-08 Zagreb
Korea, South 5.60 Kim Yoo-Suk 2004-06-12 Austin TX

Re: Men's National Records--Top 20%

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:10 pm
by Scott Go Pre
Roger Ruth wrote:France 5.98 Jean Galfione 1999-07-23 Amiens


Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Galfione jump 6.00m?

Re: Men's National Records--Top 20%

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:51 pm
by VaultNinja
Scott Go Pre wrote:
Roger Ruth wrote:France 5.98 Jean Galfione 1999-07-23 Amiens


Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Galfione jump 6.00m?


Your right.
Jean Galfione 5.98 Outdoors, 6.00m Indoors (1999 World Championships)
Radion Gataullin as well 6.00m Outdoors, 6.02m Indoors

-Guess they are compiling an outdoor list for the outdoor championships. Makes sense.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:54 pm
by Purewrath
didnt Toby Stevens jump 6 meters?

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:15 pm
by VTechVaulter
yes but these are national records... jeff is still our all time leader

for how long though...

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:25 pm
by Scott Go Pre
VTechVaulter wrote:yes but these are national records... jeff is still our all time leader

for how long though...


Who do you think will take the record? My moneys is on either Walker or Stevenson.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:37 pm
by MightyMouse
Ryland

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:46 pm
by Scott Go Pre
That would be funny. The one who Jeff mentors becomes greater than himself. Kind of like Star Wars a little bit.

To quote Darth Vader:
I've been waiting for you Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I met you I was but the learner, now I am the master!

Men's National Records--Top 20%

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:05 pm
by roger/over
How sweet it is, to find this forum still alive: even if the evidence of this is in posts questioning the accuracy of my lists. I invited that, and I'm appreciative of the responses.

VaultNinja already has set straight the differences between indoor and outdoor national records. (That might have been clear in the very first example, of Bubka's all-time best of 6.14m. If indoor marks had been included, his national record would have been shown as 6.15m.)

Some other examples from my list:

Galfione did, indeed, have 6.00m (but indoors, at the 1999 Maebasi World Championships meet.). He also had 6.00m outdoors, at Besacon on 23 May 1997, but this was in an exhibition performance, not in a sanctioned meet.

Gataullin had 6.00m outdoors, as shown. He did 6.02 indoors, but I didn't include indoor marks in this summary. I'm sorry that I didn't make that clear. I should have. More on combining outdoor/indoor marks, later.

As PV Newbie pointed out, Toby Stevenson has a 6.00 that would seem to qualify for this list, but as VTech Vaulter responded, this was a summary of national records and Toby's 6.00 was not a NR.

As I said before, I should have made it clear that this was a summary of outdoor national records. Just now, I'm struggling a bit with the fairness of combining outdoor and indoor marks in a single list. That first came to my attention when I discovered that several girls in my "Young Vaulters" list had better indoor than outdoor records for their ages and that some of these would move them above Australia's Vicky Parnoy in the age category lists. The problem, for me, is that Parnoy, however talented a 12- or 13- or 14-year-old, never had an opportunity to vault indoors. The problem can be extended to include many, many vaulters from other countries where indoor meets are not held. The question I'm trying to deal with is whether it's fair to compare vaulters who enjoy both indoor and outdoor seasons with those who can compete only outdoors. I'd appreciate opinions on this.