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Pole Unbend
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 11:56 pm
by CHSVAULT
Im currently a senior in h/s using a 13'6" 170lb skypole that was purcahsed last year by my school. as of now i weight 168 and am 6'1" Im under the weight of the pole but i cannot get the pole to unbend powerfully and throw me in my invert it just stays and slowly unbends with no power. is there such thing as bending the pole to far? plz help with this!
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:04 am
by opalkak
yeah when you break it !!!
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:07 am
by opalkak
drop your grip a hand hold or two
try this
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:08 am
by Bruce Caldwell
lower your grip 1 fist if the pole returns more powerfully then yes you may need a bigger pole. You can almost know exactly what size you need if you count how many inches you lowered the grip until it is relative to the stiffness you need
1.1- 1,2 lbs per inch depending on the brand wiht in the grip area.
One important piece of the info needed to give you the best answer is how high are you vaulting relative to your handgrip???
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:23 am
by CHSVAULT
The highest i can go is 12'6 then i take my grip back as far as possible to achieve higher heights and the pole will no longer throw me
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:24 am
by opalkak
I'm about the same build as you, and it is difficult for me to vault on a 14' 170lbs from anything farther than 3 lefts, so you may want to think about investing in some longer poles, 14'6" or 15' series
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:27 am
by CHSVAULT
well when i hold back i think im almost to the breaking point of this pole so would u say i need to invest in something other than a skypole maybe a more advanced pole? the skypoles stiffness rate isnt to great in the first place
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:08 am
by jhesch
if i remember correctly, the advertisement for skypoles (some of you gill guys correct me if im wrong) states that lower sail piece and patented double spiral wrap allows for easier bend and smoother "roll over"-most popular hs pole! well anyways, the point is that i think skypoles are meant to bend a little easier for novice vaulters, skypole EZ Plants are even softer to help build confidence...
N MY EXPERIENCE,[pacer fx's and especially carbonFX's have proven 'faster' poles, i.e. w/ same rating as other poles they may feel stiffer and have a stronger throw or kick. I have no real experience with Spirits, Rockets, Big Sticks, etc., but ive also tried ESSX, these poles are what i currently use, and i feel they have a good intermediate bend, and i think they bend 'higher' opposed to pacers...different advantages facilitate better vaulting dpending on different techniques, etc. i suggest doing some researching, look through these forums, find out more about different brands...you may even be fine on skypole with a lower flex number/ higher weight rating. im sure others can explain this better than me,>>>but i think that once you can move to heavier max weight on same length pole efficiently, then you should progress to a longer pole....hope that helps, and please, people coorect me if im wrong in these observations ^
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 12:56 am
by nolevault
Don't believe everything you read about carbons. The concept behind the carbon fiber pole has to do with keeping the weight down and the manderal size, pole diameter at a minimum. I have found that carbons don't recoil any faster than it's normal companion. Pacer FX , Essex, and Spirit poles recoil very well, the down side is they aren't as forgiving. You receive the energy back from the pole that you put into it, unlike some of the lesser poles. Skypoles are great to learn on, but it's not a great pole to jump high on. If you invest in a higher quality glass pole like the ones mentioned above, you will have to work on your technique also.