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Measuring steps

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:25 am
by ACvault
Hey, my indoor season just started and I'll get to start vaulting monday, unfortunately I haven't been able to vault since skyjumpers camp in july. Could someone please tell me the way to get your steps without running them back and use the meaurement way instead?

Also since I am the teams only vaulter my head coach asked if I new a new pole. I have no idea what I'll be vaulting since we never get standards out for practice. I have to double check but I think my weight is about 135-140 and I'm 5'9. My pr as a sophomore was 9'6. (I'm a guy and I know that is not that great but any help would be appreciated since I basically never get to vault in practice)

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:18 pm
by OUvaulterUSAF
I normally double my height and that gives me a 2 stride length. So being 5' 10" x 2 is 11' 8" but I know I sprint pretty fast so I round up to 12'. If my take off is at 12' then a 6 step approach is 36' +/- 1'. Once you're consistent you'll remember in your mind what your 3, 4, 5, 6, 7...left approach is. Of course when you move your grip height the rule is always up one handgrip is equal to half a foot away from the pit, vice versa for lowering your grip.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:29 pm
by dj
hey

have you guys read the info from the "MID" chart? i think it's still .posted

or ladyvolscoach has posted in detail...

or e-mail me i'll send the details...

dj

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:07 pm
by stavhoppare
THE APPROACH IN THE LONG JUMP, TRIPLE JUMP AND POLE VAULT

THE TWO HORIZONTAL JUMPING EVENTS AND THE POLE VAULT SHARE MUCH IN APPROACH MECHANICS. THE APPROACH ALLOWS THE ATHLETE TO DEVELOP SPEED, TEMPO AND PROPER BODY POSITION TO ACHIEVE AN EFFICIENT TAKE OFF. AT ALL TIMES, THE ATHLETE MUST STRIVE TO BE A SPRINTER, USING PROPER SPRINT MECHANICS.

THERE ARE SEVERAL CONCEPTS REGARDING THE APPROACH THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED.
STEERING
FOR YOUNG ATHLETES OR THOSE JUST LEARNING THE EVENT, A SHORT APPROACH (15-20 M) IS RECOMMENDED. THE CONCEPT OF STEERING OR GETTING A FEEL FOR THE DISTANCE (SPATIAL AWARENESS) ALLOWS THE ATHLETE TO MAKE SUBTLE CHANGES IN THE STRIDE PATTERNS AS MIGHT BE NEEDED LATER ON IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE APPROACH. AT THIS STAGE, THERE IS NO REAL NEED TO RUN A PREDETERMINED NUMBER OF STEPS. IF THE ATHLETE SEEMS TO STRIDE OUT OR SHORTEN (CHOP) TO ACHIEVE THE PROPER TAKE OFF, THE COACH MAY SUGGEST MOVING THE STARTING POINT OF THE APPROACH FORWARD OR BACKWARD.

AS THE ATHLETE DEVELOPS A CONSISTENT STRIDE PATTERN AND EFFICIENT SPRINT MECHANICS, A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF STEPS CAN BE SET FOR A MORE PRECISE APPROACH.
SPEED
ONE CONCEPT TO BE UNDERSTOOD IS THE FASTER ATHLETE WILL NEED MORE DISTANCE (LONGER APPROACH) TO REACH TOP SPEED WHILE THE SLOWER JUMPER SHOULD USE A SHORTER APPROACH. A SLOW JUMPER MAY BE ABLE TO DEVELOP TOP SPEED IN JUST A FEW STRIDES WHILE TOP SPRINTERS REACH MAXIMUM VELOCITY FROM 40 M. TO 60 M. FROM THE START. AS MOST YOUNG, DEVELOPING JUMPERS DO NOT POSSESS GREAT SPEED, IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THEY USE A SHORTER APPROACH UNTIL THEY DEVELOP BETTER STRENGTH, FLEXIBILITY AND SPRINT MECHANICS.

THE ATHLETE SHOULD STRIVE TO ATTAIN MAXIMUM SPEED (FOR THE APPROACH BEING USED) THROUGH THE TAKE OFF. WE HAVE OFTEN HEARD THE TERM “MAXIMUM CONTROLED SPEEDâ€Â

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:09 pm
by stavhoppare
Sorry the chart on the above post did not come out as it is in exel format. I will try to get it in another way.

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:14 pm
by EIUvltr
stavhoppare, you went 5.40m in 1969? Either you are Paul Wilson, Bobby Seagren or John Pennel, because I don't know many other guys going that high back then. Care to enlighten us to your identity?

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:31 pm
by rainbowgirl28
EIUvltr wrote:stavhoppare, you went 5.40m in 1969? Either you are Paul Wilson, Bobby Seagren or John Pennel, because I don't know many other guys going that high back then. Care to enlighten us to your identity?


You weren't even alive back then :P

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:34 pm
by PVGrl2407
Hey! Well Tim Johnson (Jan's bro) is my coach and he always tells us to do twice our height when moving back our approach, just like Air Force said. Whatever you do, I'd stay away from the whole running back thing...it's not very accurate. 2x my height has always worked for me.

Re: Measuring steps

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:08 am
by Vault Chick
[quote="ACvault"]Hey, my indoor season just started and I'll get to start vaulting monday, unfortunately I haven't been able to vault since skyjumpers camp in july."

Hey, you were at that camp!!! So was I! What was your name, maybe I'll remember u!! lol

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:00 am
by PVGrl2407
the one at Bloom High School? Yep I was there! My name's Melissa.

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:45 pm
by ACvault
PVGrl2407 wrote:Hey! Well Tim Johnson (Jan's bro) is my coach and he always tells us to do twice our height when moving back our approach, just like Air Force said. Whatever you do, I'd stay away from the whole running back thing...it's not very accurate. 2x my height has always worked for me.


So If I'm 5'9, my approach should be 11'6 from my takeoff point?

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:52 pm
by OUvaulterUSAF
No, your take-off point should be directly under (or little outside) where you are holding on the pole.