Effective Clearance?
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Ok Now what...
So I got you guys thinking about it. Now what do you do to increase the over grip? Does your hand hold affect the over grip? Is there a perfect hand hold for each vaulter? Can you determine your grip heighth by another drill? In other words, are there ways to measure drill performance?
Just trying to lead you guys/girls in a productive direction....
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Just trying to lead you guys/girls in a productive direction....
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i have jumped 18'1 holding 15'9.... so that would be 36"
i have also jumped 18'2 holding 16'2, which is around 32"
im thinking your grip height is not as important as the way the pole reacts with that grip. the energy you bring into the vault (speed) is the maximum height you can get out, so all that really matters is that the pole is being efficent (not landing too deep or shallow). now obviously that means for each person there will be some mark that is ideal, however... i think there is some room to play with, an acceptable range..
thats my 2 cents anyway
i have also jumped 18'2 holding 16'2, which is around 32"
im thinking your grip height is not as important as the way the pole reacts with that grip. the energy you bring into the vault (speed) is the maximum height you can get out, so all that really matters is that the pole is being efficent (not landing too deep or shallow). now obviously that means for each person there will be some mark that is ideal, however... i think there is some room to play with, an acceptable range..
thats my 2 cents anyway
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16'08" in HS (1988) gripping 14'03"
16'07" a few years ago in Reno holding 14'00"
Take off angle and energy projection at the take off really determine your grip height. What you do with it after that, meaning how much energy you add to the system and how much you allow to leak out, will determine your clearance over your grip.
If it weren't for a complete lack of speed and athletic ability, I could have held in the 16's.
16'07" a few years ago in Reno holding 14'00"
Take off angle and energy projection at the take off really determine your grip height. What you do with it after that, meaning how much energy you add to the system and how much you allow to leak out, will determine your clearance over your grip.
If it weren't for a complete lack of speed and athletic ability, I could have held in the 16's.
Over grip and hand hold.
and so we talk about it.....
Threee factors:
Hand hold
Pole size
over grip clearance
The quesations that arise:
What do you coaches do in training to periodize and teach these three simple aspects of the event? Lets keep it simple and not get too redundant in our replies. You must know about psychomoter training and periodization in athletics and of course the performance of pole vaulting.
Your thoughts?
Rick Baggett
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Threee factors:
Hand hold
Pole size
over grip clearance
The quesations that arise:
What do you coaches do in training to periodize and teach these three simple aspects of the event? Lets keep it simple and not get too redundant in our replies. You must know about psychomoter training and periodization in athletics and of course the performance of pole vaulting.
Your thoughts?
Rick Baggett
WSTC LLC
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KYLE ELLIS wrote:didnt paul burgess make 19'8 with a 16ft grip? that would be a 52 inch pushoff
wouldn't that be a 36 inch push off minus 8 for the box?????? in 1964, on a steel pole, I jumped 4.11M holding 11'6..... the box then was 6 inches deep... so i pushed 30 inches...that was one of my stong points back then.... no help from a pole just a hands together, got verticle and really pushed...... wish I could do it again today holding onto 12' feet on a flexible pole i'd be a hot M60...haha still not afraid of getting verticle, just getting down the runway without having a blowout!!!:)
Bob
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