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[theczar]

Personally, i believe that it is better to jump with good form and jump well rather than jump high with bad form. You will recieve more respect from other vaulters, because you have mastered the form. All jumpers want better form, but the better you get at it, the higher you will go anyway.

[TheBigMastodon]

If you can already get on big poles and get high with bad technique then you have much more potential than the guy getting lower than you with good form. I see kids at every meet who have better technique than I do but I end up beating them because I have the ability to use a pole a foot longer and 40lbs heavier than theirs. Its sort of like when you see some kid win the high jump doing the chair technique. Whoever gets higher is better.

They don't ask how, they ask how high!

[Cooleo111]

I hate to argue but I've got to side with Czar. I've always been taught and always believed that form is the most important thing in the vault, and if you have good form, the height will come. I'm not a big guy at all, but I can out jump a lot of my competition because I have decent form. You can always work to get bigger and faster, but the technique is what pole vaulting is really about.

[theczar]

I hate to argue but I've got to side with Czar. I've always been taught and always believed that form is the most important thing in the vault, and if you have good form, the height will come. I'm not a big guy at all, but I can out jump a lot of my competition because I have decent form. You can always work to get bigger and faster, but the technique is what pole vaulting is really about.

thanks... when I was a sophmore, I was only jumping 12, but I had excellent form for someone of the same age/year. Everyone told me that I was going to be jumping alot higher than other sophmores in the area jumping 12-6 or 13 because I know how to move my body, and because I can pole vault, not just jump high with a stick. As a senior my PR was 15-6, and I am expecting more as I get stronger and faster.

[TheBigMastodon]

I think it depends alot based on how you personally vault. I am a fast, strong vaulter so I can grab a big pole and muscle my way over heights that people with better form have jump over thier handgrip to get. I believe with my lack of form I just have that much more to work on technically. A vaulter who is technically sound, but slow and weak needs more speed and strength. I think it's just a matter of is it easier to learn technique or get faster and stronger.

[Lax PV]

What needs to be said about your jump as been said, as for the pole, i voted its better to go high and look bad, than good low and look good, just because if i see someone clear 14 with bad form, i think "wow they can be a 15'6 jumper with some work". While if i see someone with perfect form clearing 13 i say "thats impressive, but he/she isnt going to go much higher."

Totally agree, and on top of that, people PV for height, and the nuts and bolt of it says that whether I look bad or good, I jumped "X" amount of height, which is higher than some, and lower than some--looking bad or good, a higher number gets more gold medals and more team points. Thats my opinion.

[GeorgeN]

I think you have too low a bend. You need a higher hand hold, better jump off, and better knee drive. It will come with time

[Lax PV]

I think you have too low a bend. You need a higher hand hold, better jump off, and better knee drive. It will come with time

Raise your grip height to fix a low bend? Better take off and drive sounds right but raising the hand hold would intensify the low bend wouldn't it??