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2008

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:23 am
by SlickVT
In almost exactly three years from now, vaulters will be lifting off in Beijing.

What is everyone's thoughts for the olympic team and the PR's of the elite when it comes around?

Ok, ok, I will go first:

Team:
Walker
Stevenson
Miles

I think Toby will jump 6.04 and Tim Mack will break his record with 6.06 becoming the second highest vaulter of all time.

Some other PR's of note:
Pavlov @ 6.00m
Walker @ 5.95
Gibilisco @ 5.95
Skipper @ 5.80m

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:29 am
by VaultNinja
I like this topic.....Hmm let me see.

2008 Olympic Men:
Ryland
Walker
Stevenson

Noteable PR's
Ryland 6.06
Walker 6.00
Stevenson 6.05
Skipper 5.85
Pauli 5.90
Me 5.85

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:04 pm
by sjsvaulter
Team:Ryland, Skipper, and Walker-- though you can never count out Toby, Tim and Derek

Pr's: Skipper 6.00
Miles 5.95
Mack 6.05
Stevenson 6.05
Walker 6.00
Ryland 6.10
Norberg 5.90

That's right, I'm guessing Daniel will be the second man to jump 20 feet. Lol, but these pr's are complete guesses. Three years is a long time and a lot can happen.

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:36 pm
by THEONE
So this Ryland guy is really that good huh. Well I think it is very hard to say who will make that team, but what really is interesting is how everyone is talking up this Ryland guy to be the next big thing. I saw his video on the bell athletics website, and it looked pretty good. To say he will jump 6.10, I don't know. We'll have to wait and find out.

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:07 am
by SKOT
is there any reason tim mack is not on anyone's list?

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:11 am
by USMC Vaulter
SKOT wrote:is there any reason tim mack is not on anyone's list?


I'm going to guess age. According to the stats on the 6m Club page - he was 32 in 2004 when he jumped 6.01m. That will make him 36 for the 2008 Olympics. Not to put him down in any way, but most (if not all) elite vaulters peak before 36. So my assumption is that other younger vaulters will be in better form around the olympic trials for 2008 and will be the ones who make the team. Anything can happen though...

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:34 am
by achtungpv
USMC Vaulter wrote:Not to put him down in any way, but most (if not all) elite vaulters peak before 36...


I put together a spreadsheet a few years back and it showed that the average age a vaulter first jumps 5.80 was a bit less than 23 years. All 20+ 5.90 vaulters at the time other than 2 of them jumped 5.90 before age 25. The average age for a lifetime PR was 25 years old.

T&F News said one time that one average a #1 ranked athlete (across all events) spent only 3 years ranked in the top ten during their career.

World class careers are short. Plan for 4 years down the road and the deck is stacked against you.

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:23 pm
by LHSpolevault
I'd say its a tossup between about 8 guys in our country because they're all not too far apart. But I've bribed the Olympic Committee already and they've got a spot for me ;) so there's just 2 guys left for the team.

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:26 pm
by SKOT
its all makes sense now...i didnt realize how "old" he was

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:42 pm
by Skyin' Brian
achtungpv wrote:
USMC Vaulter wrote:Not to put him down in any way, but most (if not all) elite vaulters peak before 36...


I put together a spreadsheet a few years back and it showed that the average age a vaulter first jumps 5.80 was a bit less than 23 years. All 20+ 5.90 vaulters at the time other than 2 of them jumped 5.90 before age 25. The average age for a lifetime PR was 25 years old.

T&F News said one time that one average a #1 ranked athlete (across all events) spent only 3 years ranked in the top ten during their career.

World class careers are short. Plan for 4 years down the road and the deck is stacked against you.


so, are you saying that you dont think hartwig will make another oly team?

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 1:50 am
by swtvault
How old will Jeff be in 2008?? 41??? I think if he made an olympic team at that age it would be one of the greatest athletic achievements ever.

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:21 am
by achtungpv
swtvault wrote:How old will Jeff be in 2008?? 41??? I think if he made an olympic team at that age it would be one of the greatest athletic achievements ever.


There's only been 1 18' vault by a 40+ year old and it is a dubious mark.