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time limit rule?

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 8:11 pm
by pvjackex
what is the time limit for high school to vault from the time they call your name to be up

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 8:39 pm
by tiki man
Rule 7 Section 2 (Jumping Events) Art 5
[2nd sentence] A competitor shall initiate a trial that is carried to completion within: a. One and one-half minutes in the pole vault
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However, when three or fewer competitors remain in the competition,...those in pole vault will be allowed four minutes to initiate a jump. When one competitor remains six minutes in the pole vault.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 8:43 pm
by tiki man
But ... looking in the book Rule 7 section 5 (pole vault) Artic;e 29
it is a foul if the competior
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e. fails to initiate a trial that is carried to completion within the defined tim period (1 minute) after being called and after the crossbar and standards have been set.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 8:45 pm
by pvjackex
thx for reply tiki, where can i look at the rules?

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 8:46 pm
by tiki man
my sense is the parenthetical reference in Rule 7 section 5 article 29 item e is incorrect and should be omitted. Then the "defined time" is what is listed in Rule 7 Section 2 article 5 item a.

Hope this helps...it shure helped my number of post :)

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 9:02 pm
by tiki man
I just went and looked through google and was unable to locate a complete text version--which is neccessary as noted above. The NFHS website will let you order one for around $7. But ask your coach to look over his/hers. I coach a high school in Atlanta and have found people to make up rules.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 10:04 pm
by OAKPV2004
I think the rule should be 10 seconds. You should be ready vault when your name is called. I hate seeing people sit down at the end of the runway and waste a bunch of time. at the most 30 seconds, i could see if you were waiting for the wind, but thats not really a ligitament excuse.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 10:27 pm
by pvjackex
well, thats your opinion but i think most vaulters would agree with me that 10 sec is not enough. i dont take up all the 90sec , but its a mental thing. it assures you have time to prepare yourself and go when your ready.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 11:49 pm
by frozensteele
Ten seconds isn't nearly enough. I haven't seen anyone use close to the full ninety seconds though. I probably use thirty seconds just so I can calm my nerves.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 7:36 am
by Russ
I noticed this inconsistency too. Here's what I think happened. A year or two ago they amended the pv time limit rule in 7-2-5(a) to be 1.5 minutes instead of the 1 minute for other jumps. Unfortunately, they forgot to change 7-5-29(e) at the same time. Legislators make these kinds of errors all of the time. I plan to write the NFHS and ask for a clarification. My legal judgment is that when 2 rules are inconsitent, the more recently enacted rule is the one that should govern the situation. So the 1.5 minute rule is what should control.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 8:07 am
by BrandoAZ
tiki man wrote:I just went and looked through google and was unable to locate a complete text version--which is neccessary as noted above. The NFHS website will let you order one for around $7. But ask your coach to look over his/hers. I coach a high school in Atlanta and have found people to make up rules.


Where in Atlanta do you coach? I realize people make up rules. I vault at lakeside high school. Our coach isn't really a 'vault coach' so he isnt exactly aware of all the rules.. or how to coach us for that matter :dazed:

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 10:17 pm
by vaultin chris
I hate seeing people sit down at the end of the runway and waste a bunch of time.

i'd actually like to see u try to start a jump in 10 seconds. i peronsally like to use my time. its mine, my time on the runway to clear my mind, focus on the vault, and charge up my speed boosters. Just cause ur a "ten second man" doesnt mean everyone else is, u have to respect others' right to get prepared to jump.