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Typical bar progression in HS?
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:18 pm
by Divalent
Here in Ga, I've never seen it other than 6 inches all the way up until a winner is determined (with a start at some multiple of 6 inches). But I've read accounts of meets here that mention 3 inch increments. I can't imagine how long the event would last if it was 3 inches right from the start, so I assume it started at 6 inches until some point. So, for those that don't use a "6 inch all the way", when do you drop it to 3? At some predefined height? At some predefined # of competitors? And in all meets, or just "important" ones?
Re: Typical bar progression in HS?
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:25 pm
by rainbowgirl28
At our state meet, the bar begins going in 3" increments once less than half the field remains.
In my district, they set an arbitrary height (11' and 8') where the bar should go 3" after, but it's really stupid, the people making those decisions are not vaulters. You can pass if you want, of course, you don't _have_ to jump every 3".
Re: Typical bar progression in HS?
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:36 am
by xjoeyx
Well sadly in my state there are officials who run meets where if you tell them you want to pass a height they look at you with a "what's passing a height mean?" look. Luckily most of my meets this year were run by the same guy. and he understands what passing a height really means haha.
Re: Typical bar progression in HS?
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:48 pm
by PVR
In Wisconsin, bar is raised 6 inches until 6 competitors remain, then will be moved 3 inches at a time.
Re: Typical bar progression in HS?
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:19 pm
by Vaultref
xjoeyx wrote:Well sadly in my state there are officials who run meets where if you tell them you want to pass a height they look at you with a "what's passing a height mean?" look. Luckily most of my meets this year were run by the same guy. and he understands what passing a height really means haha.
That's not good, but please define what you mean by "officials"? Any person running the event could be called the official of the event.
Officials are officials because they are certified by their state office for NFHS rules, or certified by the USATF. Both do require the taking of tests and many times attendance at clinics that cover all events and how to conduct them. Passing of heights is most assuredly covered at those clinics.
So are these folks you call officials really officials? Big difference.
Re: Typical bar progression in HS?
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:26 pm
by Vaultref
These is no typical progression. Your friendly meet management sets the progressions based on a number of things which include, the type of meet it is and do any state/district/section/league standards have to be meet.
Darn sure don't want to go by six inches when the standard may be x'-3" or x'-9" as you'll pass right over it. That will
just tick off the coaches. High jump is the same deal.. maybe 3", maybe then 2" and finally 1".
Been to many a meet where we were told to go by 1' increments for a number of heights. It's not until we (here) get
into district/section or state qualifiers that a 3" increment at some point is requested. But throughout the season, it's normally 6" until the last one.
Re: Typical bar progression in HS?
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:14 am
by xjoeyx
Some of them I think are certified officials. Not sure if they are necessarily certified to officiate pv, but then again i'm not entirely sure if one is certified for one event without being certified for others. The one person who ran pv for most of our meets was actually just a coach for one of the rival schools. But some of these larger meets (state, state qualifiers, etc.) I'm not quite sure who runs these meets. I'm sure they're "certified" I just think they need a refresher on some things..