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Unread postby jcoover » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:45 am

There certainly must be something said about the vaulter timing with the pole, as opposed to the pole timing with the vault? If you look at bubka, i dont think you could time a vault better around the dynamics of the bend of his UCS pole, and it seemed to work out alright for him :P . To me, it seems that the vaulter must learn to time his vault correctly before worrying about simply finding a pole that will do the timing for him/her.
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Timing with the pole

Unread postby Bruce Caldwell » Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:25 pm

jcoover wrote:There certainly must be something said about the vaulter timing with the pole, as opposed to the pole timing with the vault? If you look at bubka, i dont think you could time a vault better around the dynamics of the bend of his UCS pole, and it seemed to work out alright for him :P . To me, it seems that the vaulter must learn to time his vault correctly before worrying about simply finding a pole that will do the timing for him/her.


So based on that theory one can jump high on the right stiffness telephone pole? Grin
I understand why you would think this. As the poles just lay on the ground and do nothing till talent picks them up.
Many vaulters for years have complained to pole manufacturers that they need a pole that bends easy and comes back fast.!!
Let me clarify what the intent of my comment was Ok.
I was referring to a pole with a greater constancy from one pole to another so the vaulter could time on the 1st or 2nd vault and not have to work all week to adjust to the new size pole. (Edited to help claify) We have a method of building poles that will help in transition from one pole to another. This is different than others use. We at ESSX make a pole that is the same pattern concept as the one you were using but stiffer. Just like you expect it and this is the way to continue working on your vault and not spending a week re-setting your timing.
My comments were not directed at UCS as Steve and Lane make very good poles. UCS has many records that they worked hard to help those athletes obtain those records .
And I think that a pole manufacturer who thinks about the vaulters needs and listens is the one we all should pay attention too.
We are one of those companies too.
By the way I do not think Bubka was at this High School meet! Smile
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Unread postby wannaflyhigh20 » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:14 pm

i would hate to think pole companies would try to cut money and make an unsafe pole... do they really do that? *stunned look*

i think in the end the guy who jumps the highest wins not the guy who jumps the highest over his handgrip so does it really matter *smile* or *grin*

i saw this guy one time have 5 different brands of poles and he pr'd that day at 5 meters. slow, short guy too. *grin with a smile* and i don't think the jumps from pole to pole were made 'with love and a gentle transition' by the pole companies. he made them work for him so maybe a pole vaulter might actually have something to do with the vault! who know *chuckle - grin*

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Unread postby wannaflyhigh20 » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:14 pm

ohh and i think bubka was there
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Is that really what I said? NO

Unread postby Bruce Caldwell » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:10 pm

wannaflyhigh20 wrote:i would hate to think pole companies would try to cut money and make an unsafe pole... do they really do that?

OH you did not read what I wrote please read again I did not say that.

wannaflyhigh20 wrote: think in the end the guy who jumps the highest wins not the guy who jumps the highest over his handgrip so does it really matter *smile* or *grin*

I did not say that either
Spencer jumped higher over his hand grip. And he got 2nd but he was a tough competitor and his attempts at 17'7" were the very good. so please read what I said again
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wannaflyhigh20 wrote:i saw this guy one time have 5 different brands of poles and he pr'd that day at 5 meters. slow, short guy too. *grin with a smile* and i don't think the jumps from pole to pole were made 'with love and a gentle transition' by the pole companies. he made them work for him so maybe a pole vaulter might actually have something to do with the vault! who know *chuckle - grin*

That is not what I said either WOW
MY QUOTE WAS As the poles just lay on the ground and do nothing till talent picks them up.

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Unread postby vault3rb0y » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:36 pm

...i hope this guy doesnt try to write an essay on the quote(s) of some famous president... wont be pretty. :P
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