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Re: Scholarships

Unread postby VaultPurple » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:25 pm

Or go some were out of state, and get a license and live there for a certain amount of months, then you can get in-state tuition.


HAHA... not as easy as it used to be, in NC almost impossible.

As far as scholarships go for pole vaulters, it is all about what the school thinks you can do for them. A D3 coach mind set is that in most conferences 14' will win, so they can go out and get a 14' pole vaulter that would be lucky to walk on to a D1 school, get him hooked up with a bunch of academician scholarships so he really wants to go, then don't really care if he ever improves because 1st is 1st no matter if they jump 14' or 18'. That is basically a guaranteed 10pts if the conference stays consistent with the type of vaulters it has. And most pole vaulters have a decent amount of athletic ability so that they could just be thrown into other events like long jump and the 60 and score a point or two here and there. So pole vaulters are worth a big scholarship where, a sprinter on the other hand is a lot of maintenance to keep him running fast times, and if they are sub 10.9 guys (which it will probably take to win), then they could find D1 school out there that thinks they could make them faster, or could use them on a relay team.

But from a D1 coach point of view, pole vaulters are expensive and really don't help the team out all that much. You require thousands of dollars worth of poles to have a good selection, then they have to pay extra to haul your poles around to meets you have to fly to. And most college pole vaulters, can only pole vault, so they can score a max of 10 points at a meet. And on top of that, in most big D1 conferences, it is going to take over 17' to win, so they are going to be gambling on you when they give you a scholarship because they are counting on you improving a lot because there are few 17' vaulters in high school to chose from. So in this since, a sprinter is a lot more valuable because there are a lot more 10.4-10.6 guys in high school than 16'6-17'6. So these guys can come right out of high school and start scoring major points, either by running an open event or being part of a relay. And a guy that runs 10.4, 21.0, 47.0 may not be the best in the nation, but he is already top 5 in 3 open events and 2 relays.

So when it comes down to it. Why should a big school give a 16'0+ pole vaulter a big scholarship just because he is number one in state and top 10 in nation, when they can get 4 15-15.6 vaulters, and give them all books? Then hopefully at least one of them will improve to that 17' vaulter and if not, 5,6,7,and 8th place in the conference still adds up to 10 points.

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Re: Scholarships

Unread postby pvdad81 » Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:51 pm

OK, I'm gonna stop complaining now. On the way back from NON, the University of Oklahoma got in touch with us and offered Jonathan a scholarship.

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Re: Scholarships

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:41 pm

Who is going to coach the vaulters at Oklahoma next year?

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Re: Scholarships

Unread postby CowtownPV » Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:48 pm

I thought OU got out of the pole vault and multi's last year.
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Re: Scholarships

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:50 pm

CowtownPV wrote:I thought OU got out of the pole vault and multi's last year.


They did. And now they changed their mind and want to have it again *rolls eyes*

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Re: Scholarships

Unread postby pvdad81 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:58 pm

rainbowgirl28 wrote:Who is going to coach the vaulters at Oklahoma next year?


The University of Oklahoma has hired Jon Heath to coach the vaulters. According to my son, he was the vault coach at Minnesota State Moorehead. I have not met him yet. Does anyone know him?

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Re: Scholarships

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:10 pm

pvdad81 wrote:
rainbowgirl28 wrote:Who is going to coach the vaulters at Oklahoma next year?


The University of Oklahoma has hired Jon Heath to coach the vaulters. According to my son, he was the vault coach at Minnesota State Moorehead. I have not met him yet. Does anyone know him?


He is a member of this site - The Skyin Pimp or something like that. I don't think he's posted in a few years. He's a fun guy.

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Re: Scholarships

Unread postby CowtownPV » Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:17 am

Glad to hear they are back in the PV business, hope they stay that way.
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Re: Scholarships

Unread postby altius » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:30 pm

Can anyone explain why they did not hire Tim McMichael???
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Re: Scholarships

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:40 pm

altius wrote:Can anyone explain why they did not hire Tim McMichael???


Maybe Tim didn't want the job. I don't know that I would want to be involved with those head coaches.

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Re: Scholarships

Unread postby kev44000 » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:40 pm

altius wrote:Can anyone explain why they did not hire Tim McMichael???


Call and ask Martin I think he really does not want the vault to be successfull ,with Tim it would have been. He wants only to give book scholorships at best. He only offered an 18 foot high schooler 50%. That was an insult.
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Re: Scholarships

Unread postby kev44000 » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:44 pm

rainbowgirl28 wrote:
altius wrote:Can anyone explain why they did not hire Tim McMichael???


Maybe Tim didn't want the job. I don't know that I would want to be involved with those head coaches.


Tim would have taken the job I think if it paid a salary. He ws not offered. When he was with Chip last year he was not getting paid.


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