New NFHS Rule

[lonestar]

Here is one for you. There is a meet coming up in the middle of February that has a lot of teams. I was told that to help the meet, (PV competition go faster) they have the opening height for the boys at 12-6 and they are only allowing 2 attemps at each height. Should go fast.

That's bush league!

Kind of like shortening the pegs so more people miss to speed up the meet.

How about limiting how many people a school can enter, assigning more volunteers to work the pit, 2 on the bar, 2 setting standards, one official calling the order, and one person getting standard settings and timing. Strictly enforce the one minute rule. Start at a reasonable height for the majority of the participants' ability, but progress the bar a foot at the lower heights, then 6" later. Lots of time-saving strategies are better than 2 attempts and starting too high for the majority.

[kev44000]

have been to two meets in the last two weeks the new rule came into affect at both the person running the pole vault did not know the rule i had printed it off and showed them the kids who were rejected and stood up and their coachs did not know the new rule one kid would have no heighted but ending up finishing second the other one turned an ankle and could not return good or bad good for one and not the other

[Bee]

I was wondering if anyone knows where to get a rule book for pole vaulting of if you have to buy the Track and Field rule book just for the section on pole vaulting? We would like to find something to beable to keep with us when needed. Thanks

[rainbowgirl28]

I was wondering if anyone knows where to get a rule book for pole vaulting of if you have to buy the Track and Field rule book just for the section on pole vaulting? We would like to find something to beable to keep with us when needed. Thanks

You have to get the whole rule book, but the NFHS rule book is tiny. It would easily fit in a pocket.

[strato]

If a vaulter was stoodup or rejected it counts as an attempt and he does not get the jump over.

[lonestar]

If a vaulter was stoodup or rejected it counts as an attempt and he does not get the jump over.

From 2008 NFHS Rulebook:

Rule Changes:

"Rule 7-5-29b Deletes that it is a foul if a competitor in the pole vault is to leave the ground without breaking the plane and touching the pit or ground beyond zero point."

[altius]

Just got round to reading this topic. Agree with what AVC coach wrote some time ago. It will not contribute to safety - indeed the opposite because athletes cannot prepare effectively to take TWO jumps within the present time limitations - even if they have the extra time allowed the top three jumpers. Every athlete should step on the runway mentally and physically prepared to clear the bar on that attempt - if they get halfway up and come back they risk ankle injury for sure and can hardly be ready for another attempt.

readers may be interested to learn that in our 2000 Olympic trials Paul Burgess who had already won the competition - after failing his first attempt at the next height - PASSED his second attempt to give himself more time to prepare for his final attempt.

[vault3rb0y]

9/10 times these 10ft vaulters start running and stop before they leave the ground, they miss anyway.

lonestar has a good idea. Go 1ft progressions until 11 feet, or just start at 11, run 5 alive, and allow no more than 3 vaulters per school.

[VaultPurple]

if the entry height is 11 i dont see the point in making a limit to 3 vaulters per school because not many schools (around here NC) have more than 3 vaulters over 11' but if they do its not fair for a new vaulter over 11 to not be able to ever jump at a meet. We only started outdoor 2 weeks ago and already have four 11'+ jumpers and the only way they are going to get experience with compition is by jumping in meets... practicing pole vault is fun but everyone wants to compeate once in a while

[vault3rb0y]

They can compete... once in a while.

But when you have 30 schools entered in a big state meet, or when you are getting 25+ kids entered in the same flight for pole vault, it will take 1 hour of warm ups to get 3 jumps each.

The solution is opening the home meets to anyone on the home team who wants to jump, and only letting them jump at small meets. It sucks during indoor meets because they are ALL big meets, but jumpers that cant make 11' opening hieght will have to wait until outdoor. Its not fair to everyone else.

An average outdoor track season should involve 4 or 5 small meets that other kids can compete in, but for big invitationals i still say you shouldn't have more than 20 kids jumping, and if you know you cant make 11' then use the day as a practice instead.

[AVC Coach]

The opening height at almost every meet (at least the one's that are run properly) here in Arkansas is 6 inches below the 10th best height turned in.

[Russ]

On Jan. 29, VaultRef wrote:

“As far as a pole bend touching beyond the place of zero, this is not addressed by NF or NCAA rule codes but is addressed by USATF and IAAF rule codes. An editorial change is needed to clear this up. No way should that be considered a foul even though some say they will call it as such. That's wrong in my opinion because if you did, then as soon as any pole bend touches beyond, you should call that a foul too and I can't think of anyone that would back you up if the jumper continues on and completes a successful jump. But hey, all they see is that the pole touched the mat past the zero point.â€