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everyone else. I accept him as the ideal or as close to it as has been achieved. So because we have an ideal we can see where the others fall short and why. And then use that information to train more effectively. At least i hope i'm thinking logically about that. It just takes the premise that his ...

yes dj, study Bubka more closely! Read Petrov more thoroughly. Compare everyone else to that ideal. Talk less think more.

so it becomes an ego pissing contest if i battle you with my own ego, well i won't do that, i will just refute some of your untruths and try and not be too vicious about it in retaliation. 1. i don't think any will disagree that this forum is filled with you bignoting yourself, it really just goes o...

I'm going to post again to get this thread back onto actual pole vaulting instead of beginning, as you call it ' an ego pissing contest' between you and me now. The relevant bit re: the swing relates to NZ Vaulter and the 3.95m girl Kerry Charlesworth whom he developed from 2.70 to 3.95 in about 8 m...

yes i coach her Alan but she was developed by NZ Vaulter which is why i didn't claim anything. What am i asking Mark though, you didn't really specify. anyway what do you think about the swing - to do or not to do? And your reasoning would be good to read as well. I'm always looking to learn if i'm ...

ok i see - you are not even aware of doing it, silly of me to have brought it up. not sure what the rest of your post is about really. Not sure why you brought up Mark Stewart and you should know i have been friends with him for about 15 years now. by the way i coach vaulters and in total there are ...

"(I really wish he would return from his sabatical and speak for himself)" If Roman is sensible he will continue to take my advice and stay away. I understand that in the middle ages the clergy argued about the number of angels that could fit onto the head of a pin -your discussion is get...

i dropped the devious because i realised it probably wasn't intentional. please refer to the quotes in the above post that's all i was referring to there, the fact you reversed your opinion on the issue of the knee above the horizonal, the entire beginning of our many post debate thanks ps i have li...

I'm glad you agree now that Bubka's lead knee does stop at the end of the takeoff and sure Bubka continues to move forward after takeoff, that's a given. What is not happening is his lead knee is not changing position anymore RELATIVE to his body. That is what this debate was centered around . The ...

or maybe we can analyse this video as it is my new favourite and something really special http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYaBPDTrVuI&feature=related it would be so good if someone knew how to get this frame by frame and post it on here. we could analyse whether he is swinging or not and bring th...

as do i Kirk but no hard feelings (even though the sigh should elicit some but i'm sweet with that if you were simply holding your breath and had to release it ;) ) By the way i did stop referring to anything past the takeoff (and follow through) quite a way back. I'm glad you agree now that Bubka's...

PP i was specifically agreeing with you on the locking or stopping of the lead knee into place. Otherwise yes i agree that the maximisation of energy throughout the vault is an essential factor just like every other event in track and field. Kirk talks about the feeling of the energy and i have no p...